The worst King of England and the best kings of England ? - Page 3 - Historum

**Bismarck** · April 29th, 2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawnmowerman

Best William the Bastard,

Simply because he tried to wipe out the North. Imagine a world with out Gorgies or Yorkshire men

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Quite a few kings tried to 'wipe out' the north, didnt they?

**Lawnmowerman** · April 29th, 2010, 12:33 AM

True but Williams Blight of the North was the most successfull some historians recon ot set the North back 300 years. I ment North of England not Scotland BTW.

And knowing you Bismark i will also start looking for a source

**DIVUS IVLIVS** · April 29th, 2010, 12:43 AM

For me Alfred the Great for "best" King.

sylla1 · April 29th, 2010, 01:08 AM

Best: Elizabeth I.

Worst: Edward VIII.

**Sargon of Akkad** · April 29th, 2010, 01:11 AM

I thought it was called the

Harrying_of_the_North

? But agreed, it did have almost genocidal undertones to it.

I'm always charmed by Edward I Longshanks. The man was, simply put, totally freaking badass. Everything he did was done to the limits of his abilities. My favourite incident is War Wolf, the largest trebuchet ever built, at Stirling castle.

When the Scots saw it, they attempted to surrender, but Longshanks sent them back in until he had had time to test his new toy. Once it turned out that it smashed down walls like they were made of sand, the Scots were allowed to surrender.

You can't mess with cool like that.

**Lawnmowerman** · April 29th, 2010, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sargon of Akkad

I thought it was called the Harrying of the North? But agreed, it did have almost genocidal undertones to it.

Absolutly correct, must have been a throw back to my World of Warcraft days

plantagenetrose · April 29th, 2010, 07:52 AM

How come nobody has mentioned Edward IV on the best list? He brought 12 years of peace to England in a time of bloodshed and war.

Also, I gotta slightly disagree with those who stuck Elizabeth on the best list. Elizabeth was not the greatest ruler, her advisors were! Here desicions were made by the men behind her alot of the time, such as Cecil and Dudley, especially at the start of her reign, although she did stand up impressively against the Spanish Armada.

Best:-

Edward I
Edward III
Edward IV

Worst:-

Geroge I, II, III, IV.

David Vagamundo · April 29th, 2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nellrowlands

Also, I gotta slightly disagree with those who stuck Elizabeth on the best list. Elizabeth was not the greatest ruler, her advisors were! Here desicions were made by the men behind her alot of the time, such as Cecil and Dudley, especially at the start of her reign, although she did stand up impressively against the Spanish Armada.

Nell--can you really separate the monarch from the advisors? To me, the question means the "reign", not the person of the monarch. But concur about Eliz. in general.

Among the Best: Edward III
Henry V
Victoria

Among the worst: Henry VIII (a bad man, not just a bad king)
Charles I
James II

**Naomasa298** · April 29th, 2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by David Vagamundo

Nell--can you really separate the monarch from the advisors? To me, the question means the "reign", not the person of the monarch. But concur about Eliz. in general.

Would you not say the same holds true for Victoria? Even more so, in fact, since she had very few real powers to exercise.

**Pedro** · April 29th, 2010, 12:31 PM

Who would George Orwell think was the best and worst? Any ideas? If you can work an elephant into your reply join us for the kick off of Historums latest book discussion.

And it is a short read!! How about that!! Like…you know…it’s not like… homework. You can read it here:
http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/887/