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Old November 6th, 2007, 07:13 AM   #11

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There were Slavs called the Venedae, did you mean them or Armorica's Veneti?
Norman Davies calls them Venedii and puts them squarely between the Oder and the Vistula, so I'm as confused as ever! A quick look through his book shows if you adhere to the Non-Autochthonous view of slavic origins, you find Lusatian, Celt and Balt influences in their supposed archaeological settlement area, north of the Carpathians. If you can get hold of a copy of "God's Playground" vol. 1, Slavic/Polish origins are discussed in reasonable depth.

Were the Veneti, the same as the Venedae or the Venedii? Pass.
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Old June 7th, 2009, 01:17 PM   #12

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Im in some kind of private investigation of slavs origins... all you can find about this topic is a wall and a confusion i never seen in my life before... its a fact that slavs population were at very high level untill they separted, but never had a leader or institutional form that could put all together in one place... as you know, they were organized in tribes but we cannot identify for sure which of tribes and people in this part of europe belongs to them or have some deeper connection...
I found a lead in all parts of europe and at the end it turned its just someones bad interpretation or wrong thoughts... Venedae realy existsts as a tribe but nevertheless some people made a connection between them and slavs, its more like they were some part of local community in nowdays germany with maybe only trade links with slavs...
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Venedaeare the west slavs, Romans speak about them because they know only them, they haven't seen the others. Slavs split ot three, Venedae, Anti (dont sure that its the right word on english) but those are the eastern slavs, and slavini (again im not sure for the spelling, but those are the southern slavs, which came on the Balkans).
Danmark is a country which is influanced by the Venedae slavs, you could see the mythology about that topic.

As much as i know about the slavs (mostly the southern slavs), is that they are very smart, they usually use smart tactic like, waiting in ambush, or hiding sometimes even hiding under water, and attack there enemy from behind. Slavs are mostly infantry, they rearly use horses, and they are devided on tribes (which actually is there mistake). Byzantines pay to some tribes in order to fight against others and etc.
They also build and use siege equipment, and sake citys. At the begging they didnt took the citys as a territory they only saked and looted, then they go back in there own territory.
Also slavs are great in numbers, they have big armys, some byzinatine historians say that slavs are like a sea of people. They don't have a professional army which is trained and staying in barracks or etc. they recruit everybody who can hold a sword and a shield. Usually they dont use armor, so there army is light, but they use speed. Slavs also have nobles, which usually act as a cavalry which is very well armed (for the time)
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The veneti were celts from north western france who were defeated by the Romans under Julius Ceasar. That's a no brainer really.

Also surpirsingly, the Polish are of 60% germanic origins and only 32% slavic.

There is no evidence for slavic influence in france, denmark or almost anywhere in western europe. Denmark is virtually of 100% germanic origins
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The veneti were celts from north western france who were defeated by the Romans under Julius Ceasar. That's a no brainer really.

Also surpirsingly, the Polish are of 60% germanic origins and only 32% slavic.

There is no evidence for slavic influence in france, denmark or almost anywhere in western europe. Denmark is virtually of 100% germanic origins
Your making a mistake, we are not speaking about the celtic tribe, we are speaking about vistula veneti (baltic veneti), those are two very different.


You know that Denmark has legends about mermaids, also the little animation movie Ariel? Well mermaids are part of slavic mythology, how do you think they could be observed in the mytology of Denmark, and not in UK?
There isnt a nation on earth thats 100% one nation.
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Your making a mistake, we are not speaking about the celtic tribe, we are speaking about vistula veneti (baltic veneti), those are two very different.


You know that Denmark has legends about mermaids, also the little animation movie Ariel? Well mermaids are part of slavic mythology, how do you think they could be observed in the mytology of Denmark, and not in UK?
There isnt a nation on earth thats 100% one nation.

You know DNA testing doesn't lie. Danish ancestory is composed of 60% viking, 40% teuton.

Funny that the slavs have mermaids in their mythology as their region of origin is largely landlocked..

As for the baltic veneti, if they existed they would have belonged to the balts peoples, not the slavs.
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Baltic veneti did existed read some info from internet, you have all the info you can get. Baltic Veneti are slavs.
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well, the balts and slavs evolved in close proximity to each other, but generally speaking peoples who lived along the baltic coast were balts at the time period of the Veneti. They probabaly originally spoke a baltic language and were later absorbed by the germanic and slavic tribes.

Also they could have been a Scythian tribe as ...."Roman historian
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in Natural History (Liber IV: 96-97) mentions a tribe called Sarmatian Venedi"
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well, the balts and slavs evolved in close proximity to each other, but generally speaking peoples who lived along the baltic coast were balts at the time period of the Veneti. They probabaly originally spoke a baltic language and were later absorbed by the germanic and slavic tribes.

Also they could have been a Scythian tribe as ...."Roman historian Pliny the Elder in Natural History (Liber IV: 96-97) mentions a tribe called Sarmatian Venedi"
Romans call all tribes which come from the Steppes - Skythians.
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You know DNA testing doesn't lie. Danish ancestory is composed of 60% viking, 40% teuton.

Funny that the slavs have mermaids in their mythology as their region of origin is largely landlocked..

As for the baltic veneti, if they existed they would have belonged to the balts peoples, not the slavs.
I didn't know there was a type of dna called Viking or Teuton. Are they scientific terms?
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