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Old May 11th, 2008, 03:25 AM   #1
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Early Slavis history


Are there any accounts on what was going on in Russia/Ukraine/Belarus between circa 300BC and 700AD??
Were there any early states??
How did these people live??

I couldn't find any relevant information anywhere.
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Old May 11th, 2008, 01:27 PM   #2

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The only thing I can put forward is that the area was divided between seven Slavic tribes, practicing a similar pagan religion, and that there were no organized states other than the Khazar Khanate in the far south until the coming of the Vikings.
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The first state in "slavic" territory, was centered in Kiev in the few centuries before 1000 AD, and was the dominion of Swedish Vikings. Unfortunately, Russia also owes its existence to the norsemen (Rus was the term local slavs applied to the Swedes). The royal families of Russia and Ukraine, though Scandinavian by birth, became assimilated into Slavic culture, as Scandinavians did elsewhere to the local cultures.

Unfortunately, for those of us with Slavic heritage, the word "slav" is itself degrading, being Old Norse for "slave". The Vikings extracted many slaves from the Slavic tribes, to be traded abroad.
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Unfortunately, for those of us with Slavic heritage, the word "slav" is itself degrading, being Old Norse for "slave". The Vikings extracted many slaves from the Slavic tribes, to be traded abroad.
are you sure of this i have heard this before as well but i just checked on wiki and it says that the origin of the word slav came from before the vikings and makes no mention of this
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_peoples"]Slavic peoples - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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are you sure of this i have heard this before as well but i just checked on wiki and it says that the origin of the word slav came from before the vikings and makes no mention of this
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Cadell was half-correct ....the English word ''slave'' probably comes from ''Slav'' (as they often happened to be slaves)....by the time I learnt a bit Old Norse (3 years ago sooo), I came only across thrall/thraell (not sure which, one is Old English, the other Old Norse). The term ''Slav'' probably refers to the fact that they understood each other....''slovo''(pronounced /slovo/..not /slouvou/ or anything) means ''word''...and this is true in every Slavic language I can think of (I'm Slovak). Yeah it definitely isn't Germanic in origin.

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http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/language/E...-Old_Norse.pdf

So it's thraell. Anyway, Slavs had a very interesting way how to call other nations...they called Germans ''nemci''(pronunciation differs, also the word differs), derived from ''nemư'' meaning ''numb/unable to speak'', as they didn't understand them.

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thanks i learn something new here everyday
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Thank you guys for the correction.
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The first state in "slavic" territory, was centered in Kiev in the few centuries before 1000 AD, and was the dominion of Swedish Vikings. Unfortunately, Russia also owes its existence to the norsemen (Rus was the term local slavs applied to the Swedes). The royal families of Russia and Ukraine, though Scandinavian by birth, became assimilated into Slavic culture, as Scandinavians did elsewhere to the local cultures.

Unfortunately, for those of us with Slavic heritage, the word "slav" is itself degrading, being Old Norse for "slave". The Vikings extracted many slaves from the Slavic tribes, to be traded abroad.
Look Here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Expansion.svg

"Yeah I had something something like this in school the cousin to swedish queen was Kathrine of Russia"

I am not sure but in Yugoslavia (Were I am from) 1941 a new discover that croatians are Iranic people who joined the slavic horde near northern ukraine.

In 583 AD slavic people invade a part of europe (I am not sure were I remember it from) as the Wikipedia says in the early 6th century.
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See sarmatians, scythians, goths (especially ostrogoths) huns, for the period you are mentioning.
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