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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:48 PM   #121
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got to say, a role of big importance in all this Vlad Dracula story must have played Matias Corvinus. After all he is the one who arested Vlad in late 1462 - after the turks retreated from Valachia - Michael Bheim tells us they even met at Brasov, probably in november '62 "where thet talked for 5 weeks or more". After this miting (where they discussed the continuing of the so-called crusade - let's not forget that Corvinus was receveing money for years from Venice and especially Rome for a war that he hadn't started at that point). So Corvinus parts for Buda and leaves Jan Jiskra, on of his greater captains, and his man to support Vlad. Instead, they capture Vlad (it's safe to presume that not without a fight). The reason? Laonic Chalcocondil says "the familys of the ones he killed in Dacia complained to the emperor..." let's be serious.. The official reason? Well, we have ( or better said the Hungarian King says there were) some letters with treason written all over them from Vlad to Stefan of Moldavia and, the most important, to Mehmet II himself (letters sent somhow in the 7th of november from "Rothel" (Cisnadie)) letters intercepted by the kings men, letters in wich Vlad Dracula was apologizing to the sultan and, as an make up act, he was promising Transylvania "who I know as the back of my hand, and by haveing it, you'll easily have Hungary too". Come on? Really? If Matias really believed that why should he have put Vlad again in the throne in 1476, or in front of his troops in Bosnia a year before, at Srebnica in October 1475 for example? It was just a lame excuse of his pasivity and one way of explaining, hell, maybe the best way of explaining to Rome the arrest of Vlad. The funny thing, this letter, the original was lost right away - we only have the transcript of Pope Pius II ( who might have believed Hungary's side of story - but another letter is sent from the same court of Hungary, a letter to pope Sixt IV (written probably by the episcope of Erlau, written in Buda 7 march 1476):"Last year King Matias realeased Vlad Draculea, and sent him to fight the turks who have a great fear of him''. Or, as Andreescu said in his brilliant Vlad Tepes Dracula - between legend and historical truth, the creed of the court of Buda might have been contained in the words of the envoy of the Duke of Ferrara in 1475: " it is hoped that the called Dracula will make great things against the turks, as he did other times". So, Vlad after beeing accused of treason and after beeing emprisoned in a cell at Visegrad over the Danube for 12 years, it's stil good enough, in Corvinus eyes, to lead his troops in Bosnia in 75, to help Stefan the Great in august 76 in Moldovia and even to rule Valachia again (unfortunatelly only for a few months).

hope my grammatical faults will be excused - english not beeing my native tongue
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Old February 12th, 2013, 05:23 AM   #122

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IMO Vlad the Impaler was one of the greatest Romanian rulers ever. If you consider his accomplishments, the fact that he managed to make himself so respected and feared in a relatively short time, shows the caliber of his personality. The radical means to which he recurred were necessary in such troublous times, there were no other means to impose and keep order or to deal with the Ottoman threat, but his profound sense of justice was well-known.
Have you read the novel " The Historian " By Elizabeth Kostova ? It is a remarkable book, perhaps closer to the History of Vlad the impaler than many vampire novels are. Strongly recommended for courageous people to read through a windy winter's evening with lengthening shadows but no window at the back and plenty of light in the reading room. ISBN 0 7515 3729 2, published by Time Warner Books in Feb.2006.
Contains very good descriptions of Buda Pest, and many, many locations in the Balkans plus , of course, Istanbul and Romania. A great read.
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