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Old January 9th, 2017, 07:34 AM   #11

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Akroinion was certainly important. It was a first victory in a pitched battle against the Arabs and it reduced pressure on the eastern frontier. After the battle, the Byzantines were able to go on to the offensive and it strenghtened iconoclasm.

Lalakaon is another great victory, however I don't think it compares to Akroinion. However, the battle is often hailed as the turning point in the Byzantine-Arab wars because the Byzantines were able to reconquer some of their eastern territories after the battle, and it also allowed to Byzantines to focus more on the Balkans.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 04:18 PM   #12
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Battle of Melanthius, the Volga bulgars tried to invade Constantinople, Belisarius had retired at this time and was quickly recalled by Justinian to stop them, in his last battle he defeated a force of 2,000 Kutrigurs who outnumbered his army of 300 men and pushed them back over the danube river.

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Battle of Melanthius, the Volga bulgars tried to invade Constantinople, Belisarius had retired at this time and was quickly recalled by Justinian to stop them, in his last battle he defeated a force of 2,000 Kutrigurs who outnumbered his army of 300 men and pushed them back over the danube river.
Just had a quick search and it seems to be 300 'plus a number of irregulars'.

Which sounds much more likely. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the leader of these Kutrigurs was an idiot.

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Just had a quick search and it seems to be 300 'plus a number of irregulars'.

Which sounds much more likely. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the leader of these Kutrigurs was an idiot.
..another inaccuracy. Volga Bulgaria was established by Kotrag, son of Kubrat a century later, so these kutrigurs weren't volga bulgars.
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Just had a quick search and it seems to be 300 'plus a number of irregulars'.

Which sounds much more likely. Otherwise you'd have to assume that the leader of these Kutrigurs was an idiot.
Yeah, to beat them he ordered his soldiers to raise dust to give the impression that Belisarius had a huge army, this panicked the volga raiders and they got slaughtered and drove back across the river by the byzantines.
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Kleidion was pretty significant seeing how it lead to the fall of Samuilo's empire. Nikephoros Xiphias was in my opinion the architect of the victory more than Basil II. The battle didn't mark the immediate end of Samuilo's state but it was a decisive blow and by 1018 Byzantium finished the conquest of Bulgaria and reached the Danube. Basil really earned that Bulgaroktonos epithete.
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..another inaccuracy. Volga Bulgaria was established by Kotrag, son of Kubrat a century later, so these kutrigurs weren't volga bulgars.
No idea mate you'll have to speak to TheMilitaryHistoryAddict about that. I just read Wiki about it.

But I'm always sceptical about these hyper-intelligent, wonderful methods - dust storms, shields reflecting the sun, all that sort of thing. I'd like to see an analysis of the source(s) by someone.
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Destruction of Pechenegs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Levounion
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The Battle of Cannae 1018 is also a ERE victory against the Lombards and Normans. Well technically more of a Roman victory since the Romans lost a previous battle against carthaginians 1500 years before.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cannae_(1018)

And the Battle of Garigliano where the ERE and Papal States fought against the Saracens and moors.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Garigliano

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Old January 13th, 2017, 12:06 AM   #20

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Fun fact: the Byzantines won every Byzantine civil war. Besides that, the campaigns of Basil II and the preceding 4 emperors were filled with victories.

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