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Old October 25th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #1
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Alternative names for Byzantium and Byzantine?


If you would not name Byzantium "Byzantium" and not call Byzantine "Byzantine", which terms would you then use?

I'm looking for English as well as the Greek terms (using Latin alphabet ).
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The chap who found it was Constantine, so Constantinopilatine may have been apt, bit of a mouthful mind you.

Or how about Rome MKII?
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The Norsemen called it "Mickelgarth" [Great City]
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The Rus called it Tsargrad (city of the Emperor) for a long time.
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Thanks guys. And what did the "Byzantines" call their realm and themselves, apart from Rhomania and Roman (Rhomaios in Greek?)?
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Basileia Rhomaion?
Arche Rhomaion?

Rhomaion or Romaion?

Basileia or Arche?

Other names?
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Thanks guys. And what did the "Byzantines" call their realm and themselves, apart from Rhomania and Roman (Rhomaios in Greek?)?
That covers just about all the references. The term oikoumene (inhabited/civilized world) appears occasionally, though. And contrary to popular opinion, they did occasionally refer to certain individuals as "Byzantine" given the strict necessities of classicizing historiography. Someone who lived in Constantinople thus could be a Byzantine, as Thucydides did not know the city's later name. That said, they usually just referred to Constantinople as "the city" or "the queen of cities".
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Many thanks Kirialax!

Which term would you prefer to use when it comes to them referring to their country and themselves?

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Many thanks Kirialax!

Which term would you prefer to use when it comes to them referring to their country and themselves?
I usually use "Roman", "Romaios", "Medieval Roman", or "Byzantine." I'm fine with using a commonly accepted term that's erroneous so long as my audience knows the problems associated with that term, which is why I usually use "Byzantine".
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And regarding the name of their country, what did they most commonly call their realm:

Basileia Rhomaion?
Arche Rhomaion?
Rhomania?

Something else?

And what did they call Constantinople in Greek?
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