Best Knights? - Historum

sultantutan · November 27th, 2012, 05:23 PM

I'm wondering if there was some sort of rating among them? I used to think knights from Holy Roman Empire / Germany were far superior than those of France, England etc.

So in you opinion which medieval nation produced the best Knights?

**Apachewarlord** · November 27th, 2012, 06:16 PM

Isaace Newton was by far the best knight of all time. What more could you want? He was smart, and was not a murderer.

**okamido** · November 27th, 2012, 06:34 PM

William Marshall is often cited as the greatest knight in Christendom. so maybe take a look at him and see if he fits your criteria.

**DreamWeaver** · November 28th, 2012, 04:43 AM

Agree with Okamido here, William I the Marshall Earl of Pembroke is often considered to be the 'best' knight, he does have quite the reputation.

But it really depends on what really the criteria is.

Individuals might be one thing, whole nations and realms quite another.

**Mangekyou** · November 28th, 2012, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by okamido

William Marshall is often cited as the greatest knight in Christendom. so maybe take a look at him and see if he fits your criteria.

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Originally Posted by DreamWeaver

Agree with Okamido here, William I the Marshall Earl of Pembroke is often considered to be the 'best' knight, he does have quite the reputation.

But it really depends on what really the criteria is.

Individuals might be one thing, whole nations and realms quite another.

My thoughts also.

He served a fair few monarchs, was instrumental (along with Hubert de Burgh) in Eliminating the French invasion of England and from his record, a formidable Jouster.

**M.E.T.H.O.D.** · November 28th, 2012, 01:17 PM

Pierre Terrail "Bayard" is another highly celebrated knight, also known as ""the knight without fear and beyond reproach"; he embodied the perfect knight, with all his virtues, during the XVI century
He loyally served Charles VIII, Louis II and Francis I in all their campaigns in the Italian Peninsula during the Italian Wars, from the early days of Charles VIII's invasion of Northern Italy in 1494 to the Battle of Romagnano Sesia in 1524, where he was mortally wounded by an arquebus ball.

**Naomasa298** · November 28th, 2012, 01:24 PM

Let me nominate the one-armed Gotz von Berlichingen, who, although he was a knight, always seemed to be on the wrong side of the law, being placed under an Imperial ban twice and leading rebels during the German Peasants' War.

And there was Edward, the Black Prince, a notable victor in many battlefield engagements, although he was less than knightly in some of the things he did.

**AlpinLuke** · November 28th, 2012, 01:36 PM

Regarding the best knight in history, usually Jean De La Valette [Grandmaster of the Order of the Hospital, then of Malta, during the famous siege] comes to my mind.

But sure the other candidate are absolutely comparable and they deserve the same honor in history.

**M.E.T.H.O.D.** · November 28th, 2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Naomasa298

Let me nominate the one-armed Gotz von Berlichingen, who, although he was a knight, always seemed to be on the wrong side of the law, being placed under an Imperial ban twice and leading rebels during the German Peasants' War.

And there was Edward, the Black Prince, a notable victor in many battlefield engagements, although he was less than knightly in some of the things he did.

Gotz be da man!!

Other worthy candidates could be Hermann Von Salza(greatest grand master of the Teutonic Order), Godfrey of Buillon(the de-facto leader of the First Crusade) and Federico da Montefeltro(Renaissance condottiere and knight of the Order of the Garter)

**Mangekyou** · November 28th, 2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by M.E.T.H.O.D.

Gotz be da man!!

Other worthy candidates could be Hermann Von Salza(greatest grand master of the Teutonic Order), Godfrey of Buillon(the de-facto leader of the First Crusade) and Federico da Montefeltro(Renaissance condottiere and knight of the Order of the Garter)

Is that the same guy who rivalled Pandolfo Malatesta?