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Old January 18th, 2013, 11:42 AM   #61

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Ah yes Henry V`s widow, the one who married a certain Lord Stanley me thinks. Sheesh this medievil dynastic politics is hard work. More treachery and back stabbing than a modern day soap opera.
She was married to Owen Tudor "the head shall lie on the stock that was wont to lie on kates Lap", said in disbelief as he was propeled towards his execution.
his head was displayed in the centre of Hereford at the foot of the market cross, where a long time admirer who was slightly mad, combed the hair and washed the face.
This was after the rout of the Lancastrians at Mortimers Cross. The Tudor connection to the lancastrians stems from Owen tudors relationship with Queen Catherine, Henry V's widow.
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Old January 18th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #62

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Sperro I love your new sig line and was wondering where the inspiration came from. Have you been on the wine gums again after all that warnings your doctor gave you? Now back to the OP was Tewkesbury Edward's finest hour?
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Sperro I love your new sig line and was wondering where the inspiration came from. Have you been on the wine gums again after all that warnings your doctor gave you? Now back to the OP was Tewkesbury Edward's finest hour?
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Just a little of my light hearted "goon" humour. I think the threads have become too antagonistic of late, everyones opinion is worth something even if you dont agree with it.
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Just a little of my light hearted "goon" humour. I think the threads have become too antagonistic of late, everyones opinion is worth something even if you dont agree with it.
Humour is a fine tonic (British style ofc)

Even if you dont agree, if an argument is constructed well, it can be compelling.
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Humour is a fine tonic (British style ofc)

Even if you dont agree, if an argument is constructed well, it can be compelling.
Despite having a fanatical interest in the Wars of the Roses, i cannot bring myself to take it too seriously
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Despite having a fanatical interest in the Wars of the Roses, i cannot bring myself to take it too seriously
Its not entirely a bad thing, because sometimes people being too serious, can lead to stubborn divisions.

What do you make of the battle of Losecote field (I love the humorous and apt name for this battle)?
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Its not entirely a bad thing, because sometimes people being too serious, can lead to stubborn divisions.

What do you make of the battle of Losecote field (I love the humorous and apt name for this battle)?
to be truthfull i dont know a great deal about it (without looking it up). Ithink this was the battle that preceded Edwards flight into temporary exile (Holland), but please correct me if Iam wrong.
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to be truthfull i dont know a great deal about it (without looking it up). Ithink this was the battle that preceded Edwards flight into temporary exile (Holland), but please correct me if Iam wrong.
Yes, it was juset before he was forced into exile by Warwick. It was a rebe; uprising, precipitated by Warwick, but they refused to stand before Edward trained soldiers and fled. Allegedly, they were wearing the coats of Warwicks retinue, and in order to not be identified as such, they threw their coats away, as they fled, hence the name of the battle. The real name was battle of Eppingham (iirc).
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to be truthfull i dont know a great deal about it (without looking it up). Ithink this was the battle that preceded Edwards flight into temporary exile (Holland), but please correct me if Iam wrong.
Ok, I cheated and refreshed my memory. the battle was conducted somewhere around Grantham area. Edwards forces were victorious, routin Clarence and warwick, who subsequently made their way into Exile in France. The Title stems from the account of lancastrian troops disrobing their surcoats on the battlefield before fleeing.
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