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Old January 16th, 2013, 06:47 AM   #1

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What did ancient Bulgarians look like?


Ok I'll start first with images from state seals,medallions,icons,treasures.

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Lead seal of tzar Simeon the Great




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Icon from early mediaval period. The icon shows similarity with other Bulgarian pre-Christian art (pictures 3,11) and with examples of early Iranian art - image of Sogdian and of Midian men (picture 2.1)
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This is plate with image of man - possibly priest called kolobur in Bulgarian.



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Golden dish from the treasure of Nagy- st -Miklos with image of a horseman holding his killed enemy's body.




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Golden dish from the treasure of Nagy-st-Miklos with image of a horseman shooting with his bow.




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Golden medallion of kanasubigi Omurtag.



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Two Bulgarian medallions found near the city of Preslav.



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Bulgarian medallion found near the mediaval fortress near Dobrich.



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Seal of tzar Petar.




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Lead seal of kanasubigi Boris/knyaz Mihail.



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Famous Madara horseman. I will post a research about him but I need some time to translate it.






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Seal of kanasubigi Tervel.

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Old January 16th, 2013, 11:25 AM   #2

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Interesting pictures, but what's the point of the thread?
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Interesting pictures, but what's the point of the thread?
I thought that it would be interesting to acquaint the people here with ancient Bulgarians and their culture since there aren't many threads about that. Something wrong ?


Here is another icon this time from the 13th century,but which is made in the same style typical for pre-Christian Bulgaria.

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are there reconstructed faces of old Bulgars based on skulls? i think i read somewhere that Kubrat's grave was also located, so did his skeleton survive?
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are there reconstructed faces of old Bulgars based on skulls? i think i read somewhere that Kubrat's grave was also located, so did his skeleton survive?
Yes there are reconstructed faces of tzar Samuil and churgobilya Mostich, but the quality of the reconstruction is doubted so I don't rely on them.

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This is most interesting, the Persian influence here is unmistakable.
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By Samuil though, it seems that the Slaviczation of the Bulgarians was already pretty complete.
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This is most interesting, the Persian influence here is unmistakable.
Yeah it seems that Bulgarians have serious contacts with Sassanid empire.
Here is one Sassanid dish with the same theme.

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Interesting pics. It seems Mostich looks more "asiatic", while Samuil is already more Slavic like.
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By Samuil though, it seems that the Slaviczation of the Bulgarians was already pretty complete.
Yeah I agreee.
Well Samuil's father was either from the rulling Bulgar class or local Slav nobleman from the Berziti tribe which inhabited Macedonia during the early Mediaval period. His mother however is called Ripsimia but there aren't records calling Armenian noblewoman. She may also be of Bulgar descent since not all Bulgars have Iranic names the uncle of kan Kubrat is called Organa-Orhan.
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