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Old October 9th, 2009, 10:15 AM   #1

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Vlad III Dracula's Cellar Unearthed


Archaeologists Discover ‘Count Dracula's’ Cellar
Published Oct 2, 2009 by ■ Christopher Szabo

Archaeologists have found a cellar in the university town of Pécs in southern Hungary, which they believe to have belonged to Wallachian Duke Vlad III, more commonly known as ”Dracula.”

Tamás Fedeles, tutor of medieval and early modern history at Pécs University said his research showed that Vlad III Tepes alias ”Dracula,” lived in a two-story town house on what is now the city’s central square.

Fedeles says the Duke of Wallachia (modern-day southern Romania) owned the house in the 1460s and this is confirmed by a 1489 document that refers to it as ”Drakulya House.” The document contains a detailed description of the house and from this, Fedeles says the cellar most likely belonged to ”Drakulya”.

Olivér Gábor, a local archaeologist, agrees. He says this cellar was one of the most impressive medieval cellars found to date. In his opinion, further excavations could turn up interesting finds.

However, authorities plan to fill in the site of the newly discovered cellar. This is partly due to the views of the official archaeologist of the Cultural Heritage Protection Service, who expressed the view that the excavations did not unearth any items that might point to an individual owner.

Zoltán Kárpáti also disagreed with the position of the house referred to in the medieval document. He did concede, however, that the cellar could have been that of the ”Dracula House” of the document.

Based on Kárpáti’s statement, city official Péter Merza said Pécs was not obliged to open the find to the public. He added that the space would have to be filled in such a way that it could be reopened at a later date.

Meanwhile, the English-language website Pestiside noted cynically that the discovery was very close to the city’s upcoming tenure as the European Capital of Culture next year, saying it was ”suspicious.”

The character of Count Dracula, who actually lived from c. 1431 to 1476 was made famous by the 19th Century Anglo-Irish novelist Bram Stoker, and was not closely based on the life of Voivode (Duke) Vlad III. Unlike the story character, Vlad’s castle was in northern Wallachia, at Târgovişte, not in Transylvania, as in the book. Nor did he have anything to do with vampire cults.

He was, however, reportedly very cruel and stories about his cruelty were circulated even during his lifetime, with pamphlets circulated about him as far away as Germany and Russia. His nickname, ”Tepes” is Romanian for ”Impaler,” while his father, Vlad Dracul’s name refers to the Society of the Dragon, an order of knights founded by the Hungarian King Zsigmond (Sigismund).
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Old October 9th, 2009, 11:56 AM   #2

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after all he was executed by Turks.
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But he did executed many turks, he had an issue with turks.
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One story is of Mehmed II, the conqueror of Constantinople, and ruler of the Ottoman Empire was turned back when confronted with the sight of 20,000 rotting Turkish corpses impaled on wooden stakes lining the entry road outside Vlad III's capital city of Târgovişte, in what is now Romania. Mehmed II returned to Constantinople without confronting Vlad III Dracula on this particular occasion. Mwahhhahahahaha!!! Târgovişte was the site of the trial and execution of Nicolae Ceauşescu and his wife Elena in December 1989 following Ceauşescu's ouster as the ruling dictator of Romania's communist regime, the so called "cult of personality."
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Meanwhile, the English-language website Pestiside noted cynically that the discovery was very close to the city’s upcoming tenure as the European Capital of Culture next year, saying it was ”suspicious.”
Fair enough comment. Get back to me if they dig up something interesting, something with historical value.
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Fair enough comment. Get back to me if they dig up something interesting, something with historical value.
Ha, ha! Truly, it sound like they fired blanks, huh? And the story goes when researchers dug up the supposed grave of Vlad III Dracula, known posthumously as Vlad Ţepeş, in Snagov all they found inside was animal bones. I wonder if it was Canis or Desmodus genus they found?
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But he did executed many turks, he had an issue with turks.
I think the story is more detailed than that Sturm:

Prince Vilad II accepted the autoryty of Ottomans. As a result of it Dracula and his grand brother sent as a captive.It was when he was 11-12. He had been to some castle in Anatolia. Then he sent to sehzade (Prince) Mehmet the counqueror for education together with his brother and Iskender Bey who later rebell against Ottoman in Albania.

Yanosh Hunyadi blamed Drakulas family as being untrustworth and attacked Eflak (Ulahiya or Valahia). He gained many supports from local aristocrats. And killed Draculas family.

It is said that Drakula fighted against Hungaria and gained admire of Ottomans in the battle.

He became governor in Eflak. Firslty he slaughtered the aristocrats who helped the killings of his family. His ruling was full of terrors. His notorious fame became widespread in Turkey Germany Balkan..

he stoped paying tax to Ottoman then things went wrong. Akincıs and Drakulas forces Slujies turned land of Eflak to hell.

Then Dracula attacked to Ottomans. Ottomans who came after Slujies and Bashıbozuks made the things terribble.

Dracula fleed to Hungary. And his brother Radula took his place as a Governor of his land.

Hungarian king who was anxious about Ottomans attack impirisoned Dracula.
He attemped to take the throne of his land. But executed by the turks.
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There is a story:

Ottoman diplomats came to discuss diplomacy with Vlad. He asked them "Why didn't you removed your hats from your head, when you entered in the castle hall?", they said "It is our custom, never to remove those hats".
Vlad ordered those diplomats to be seized, and the romanians hammered in nails in there heads to hold on there hats.
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There is a story:

Ottoman diplomats came to discuss diplomacy with Vlad. He asked them "Why didn't you removed your hats from your head, when you entered in the castle hall?", they said "It is our custom, never to remove those hats".
Vlad ordered those diplomats to be seized, and the romanians hammered in nails in there heads to hold on there hats.
Plus his life is full of tragedy. I think he turned insane afte all his experience.

He is called Kazıklı Pasha ( Pasha with stakes) Kazıklı Bey by Turks.
Alse Dracul (Devil) by Hungarian
Uber (withc) by Germans.

Your story is nothing compared to other nasty things he did. he is perfect maniach.

At first he had good relations with Ottoman. he paid taxs regularly and much admired.

Then he became insane to his ctizen.

According to Tursun bey who is ottoman historian in Mehmet II time. he called Dracula as blood drinker whic also means trouble making as turkish idom.

Dracula was first clas maniach. His usuall hobby was killing people and other living things on stakes

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It seems he was an effective ruller: the economy and military power increased. He bravely fought against otoman yoke, but was betrayed by hungarians. He had many enemies, within, and after his life-time, from pagan turks, and christian allies. Probably he was too blood thirsty, probably he was affected by the killings of his family by turks, but a mad man couldn't obtain such many successes
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