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View Poll Results: Greatest Muslim Leader during the Crusades?
Kilij Arslan 3 6.00%
Atabeg Zangi 1 2.00%
Nur ad-Din 4 8.00%
Skirkuh 0 0%
Salah ad-Din (vote for me!!!!) 33 66.00%
Baibars 9 18.00%
Khalil 0 0%
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Old December 31st, 2009, 01:11 PM   #1

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Best Muslim Leader during the Crusades?


Of all the Muslim sultans, amirs, and warlords who fought to expell the barbaric Franj from the Holy Land, which was most successful or talented?
  • Kilij Arslan, the Seljuk sultan of Nikaea, who, barely out of his teens, managed to resist the first wave of Crusaders to come at his kingdom in 1097.
  • Atabeg Zangi, the founder of the Zangid Dynasty of Aleppo, he captured King Fulk of Jerusalem in 1137 and in 1144 he destroyed the Crusader Kingdom of Edessa.
  • Nur ad-Din, the warlord who managed to unite the fragmented emirates of Syria against the Crusaders.
  • Shirkuh, Nur ad-Din's general, uncle to Salah ad-Din, he had experience fighting both Crusaders and fellow Muslims, and he managed to destroy the heretical Fatimid Dynasty and add it to Nur ad-Din's empire in 1169
  • al-Malik an-Nasir Yusuf ibn Ayyub Salah ad-Din; the Kurdish warlord who followed his uncle Shirkuh to Egypt; he reorganized Egypt's army before setting out against the Kingdom of Jerusalem; capturing King Guy d'Lusignan at Hattin on 4 July 1187, he retook Jerusalem and several years later frustrated Richard Coeur d'Leon's attempts to retake it for Christendom
  • Rukn ad-Din Baibars; this Turkish mamluk officer overthrew the crumbling Ayyubid Dynasty and established the Mamluk Sultanate that would last until 1517; he took Antioch back for Dar al-Islam in 1268
  • Khalil; a Mamluk sultan, he took Acre, the last fragment of Outremer left, in 1291
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Old December 31st, 2009, 03:29 PM   #2

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I see that everyone, is, indeed, voting for my illustrious namesake...

Personally, I thought Baibars was pretty cool, too.
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I went for Saladin because of his military feats, although without Nur ad-Din setting the stage, he most likely would not have been as accomplished.
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Old December 31st, 2009, 04:21 PM   #4

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Kılıç Aslan was greath, I have to vote for Salahaddin Eyyübi.

In Turkish Sultan is mostly adhered to females, for example to the female relative of Ottoman emperors. Ottman emperors were mostly called Padishah, as for Selçuk leaders, and the earlier leaders It is Hakan or Han.
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Old December 31st, 2009, 04:35 PM   #5

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I had to vote for Saladin as well. I think he was the best military leader to fight during the Crusades.
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Old December 31st, 2009, 05:25 PM   #6

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I went for Saladin because of his military feats, although without Nur ad-Din setting the stage, he most likely would not have been as accomplished.
Sometimes I am tempted to see a parallel in medieval Islamic history and Japanese history - both have a three of great conquerors/unifiers. For Japan, Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa; for Islam, Zangi, Nur ad-Din, and Salah ad-Din. Each of these men built upon the foundation set by his predecessor.
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For me it is Baybars. He managed to hold off the Mongols and he created a solid dynasty.
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Sometimes I am tempted to see a parallel in medieval Islamic history and Japanese history - both have a three of great conquerors/unifiers. For Japan, Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa; for Islam, Zangi, Nur ad-Din, and Salah ad-Din. Each of these men built upon the foundation set by his predecessor.
I can agree with that totally, as when I wrote my earlier statement, I wondered if I was short-changing Zengi. Good call.
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I admit Salah ad-din was great. but I vote al-Malik al-Zahir Rukn al-Din Baibars al-Bunduqdari‎. He was captured by the Mongols on the Kipchak steppe and sold as a slave, ending up in Syria. then Defeat the Mongol and becoming Sultan.
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Saladin: kicked out crusaders.

Baibars: kept Mongols away from Egypt.

I voted for Saladin, of course.
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