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Old May 16th, 2016, 04:24 PM   #21

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Still, it is only 25 people out of how many? If the common people were not getting tombs and embalmed they could have completely different skull measurements. There is no way a 25 people sample can accurately reflect what Egyptians were.

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He knows this and is a troll. I'm waiting for that moderator who seems to only pop around when Afro-centrics are steadily holding their own and debunking the Euronuts. One posters openly said Blacks had no civilization. They didn't get into trouble for saying this. I however got a 3 day ban with the thread being closed. I wonder how long they will allow this guy to run rampant? It's only a problem when someone is defending African civilization is posting. Euro nuts can make as many ridiculous threads such as the OP has been doing all day and the mods won't do anything. They know very well what they are doing and I'm tired of mods being biased. We are all smart enough to know when an OP is trolling and this is a troll thread like the others the mods have done nothing about. But let me post more evidence on a thread defending that Punic Carthage had Blacks who made a up a significant portion of the population and that one would be "closed for review" in a matter of hours....Yeah I said it...just pointing out what has been going on. We need new mods. This wouldn't stand in any other section of the forums. It's well known of the African make-up and contribution of Egypt. The fact this is still up shows the biases or lack of concern for real scholarship in this section of the threads.

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He knows this and is a troll. I'm waiting for that moderator who seems to only pop around when Afro-centrics are steadily holding their own and debunking the Euronuts. One posters openly said Blacks had no civilization. They didn't get into trouble for saying this. I however got a 3 day ban with the thread being closed. I wonder how long they will allow this guy to run rampant? It's only a problem when someone is defending African civilization is posting. Euro nuts can make as many ridiculous threads such as the OP has been doing all day and the mods won't do anything. They know very well what they are doing and I'm tired of mods being biased. We are all smart enough to know when an OP is trolling and this is a troll thread like the others the mods have done nothing about. But let me post more evidence on a thread defending that Punic Carthage had Blacks who made a up a significant portion of the population and that one would be "closed for review" in a matter of hours....Yeah I said it...just pointing out what has been going on. We need new mods. This wouldn't stand in any other section of the forums. It's well known of the African make-up and contribution of Egypt. The fact this is still up shows the biases or lack of concern for real scholarship in this section of the threads.
I think I know who this guy is. I would ignore him. He just made this thread.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 07:10 PM   #23
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Wow this thing is really ugly doing research for a book and the hatred on both sides... but from people with Phd's is astounding. Let me say I've heard crazy foolishness from so called afrocentrists. But as a lover of African culture what I'm I supposed to call myself ?
But let me say it does matter who built the pyramids not because we want to claim greatness but because we want to know are true history not just what you tell us. Their is a lot of hatred towards blacks and I don't know why I really can't help it if I'm scary I try not to be. But can you really tell me the bust of Queen Tiye King Tut's Grandmother is not that of your typical so called Negro ????????
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Yes, the ancient Egyptians were black.

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DNATribes, a genomics company that specializes in tracing individuals’ ancestry to certain global populations has recently subjected the published STRs profiles (DNA samples) of Pharaoh Tutankhamen and family to analysis. They report that the closest living relatives of the mummies are sub-Saharan Africans, especially those from Southern Africa and the Great Lakes region.
The company also tested the STR profiles of Ramesses III and found that among present-day populations, Ramesses’ autosomal STR profile is most frequently found in the African Great Lakes region, where it is approximately 335.1 times as frequent as in the world as a whole.
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NileValleyPeoples is a pseudoscientific Afrocentric blog run by a black supremacist crank from Egyptsearch. It promotes the racialist theory that the ancient Egyptians were "black" (see Ancient Egyptian race controversy) and somehow "tropically-adapted" (despite the fact that the vast majority of Egypt is above the Tropic of Cancer in latitude

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NileValleyPeoples claims to oppose racialism and has sections on its blog debunking the "Human Bio-Diversity" (HBD) of Steve Sailer. However, it promotes its own Afrocentric view of racialism e.g. an African "genetic cluster", pooling all, or most populations in Africa together as part of some "African race", or African meta-population. In reality no such continental cluster exists, as shown by modern genetic studies:
Genetic variation in humans is sometimes described as being discontinuous among continents or among groups of individuals, and by some this has been interpreted as genetic support for 'races'… Our results show that when individuals are sampled homogeneously from around the globe, the pattern seen is one of gradients of allele frequencies that extend over the entire world, rather than discrete clusters. Therefore, there is no reason to assume that major genetic discontinuities exist between different continents or 'races'. (Serre & Paabo, 2004)
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7phoenician7 is a female white supremacist YouTube user who creates pseudoscientific racialist videos about "Caucasoids", especially a "Caucasoid Egypt".
In most of her videos on Egypt, 7phoenician7 quote mines sources. Modern Egyptology and anthropology does not recognize the validity of discredited notions of "race" (see Ancient Egyptian race controversy), 7phoenician7 however is obsessed with terms like Caucasoid and Negroid, and has a poor understanding of population biology.
One does not have to look far to see 7phoenician7's racist agenda in her posts, she often describes black people as having a low IQ and claims that Negroids (i.e. Sub-Saharan Africans) have never been capable of building a civilization. Most of her YouTube subscribers are also white nationalists connected to Stormfront where her videos are linked.
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Were the ancient Egyptians black? the answer is no.
Ancient Egyptian race controversy - RationalWiki
Afrocentrists are wrong to describe the ancient Egyptians as black people (even if "black" is only describing dark brown skin/black pigmentation). This is because there was a gradient of skin color, ranging from a light brown among northern coastal and Nile-Delta Egyptians in Lower Egypt, to a dark brown in Upper Egypt and Nubia.[31][32][33] Middle Egyptians would have on average fallen intermediate between these extremes. The term black obscures and does not capture well this cline:
Afrocentrists claim that Egyptian civilization was a "black" civilization, and this is not accurate [...] Most scholars believe that ancient Egyptians looked pretty much like today’s Egyptians - that is, they were brown, becoming darker as they approached the Sudan (Snowden 1970, 1992; Smedley 1993).[34]

The "Black Egyptian hypothesis" was criticized and rejected at UNESCO's Symposium on the Peopling of Ancient Egypt and the Deciphering of the Meroitic Script in Cairo in 1974[35] (published 1978). Afrocentrist C. A. Diop attended this symposium and when asked "what proportion of melanin was sufficient for a man to be classified as belonging to the black race" failed to provide an answer.[36]
Regarding Greco-Roman descriptions of ancient Egyptians from classical texts, the classicist Frank M. Snowden noted how Afrocentrists commonly distort them:
Diop not only distorts his classical sources but also omits references to Greek and Latin authors who specifically call attention to the physical differences between Egyptians and Ethiopians.[37]

Historian Yaacov Shavit (2001) points out with few exceptions, the ancient Greeks and Romans described the Egyptians as not black:
The evidence clearly shows that those Greco-Roman authors who refer to skin color and other physical traits distinguish sharply between Ethiopians (Nubians) and Egyptians, and rarely do they refer to the Egyptians, even though they were described as darker than themselves. No Greek doubted that the Egyptians were darker than the Greeks, but not as dark as black Africans.[38]

Ann Macy Roth Visiting Assistant Professor of Egyptology at Howard University, Washington penned an essay to refute Afrocentric claims.[39] According to Roth, a typical Afrocentric claim is that the modern peoples in Egypt are much lighter skinned than the ancient inhabitants, an argument she rejects:
I have encountered arguments that the ancient Egyptians were much 'blacker' than their modern counterparts, owing to the influx of Arabs at the time of the conquest, Caucasian slaves under the Mamlukes, or Turks and French soldiers during the Ottoman period. However, given the size of the Egyptian population against these comparatively minor waves of northern immigrants, as well as the fact that there was continuous immigration and occasional forced deportation of both northern and southern populations into Egypt throughout the pharaonic period, I doubt that the modern population is significantly darker or lighter, or more or less 'African' than their ancient counterparts.
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He knows this and is a troll. I'm waiting for that moderator who seems to only pop around when Afro-centrics are steadily holding their own and debunking the Euronuts. One posters openly said Blacks had no civilization. They didn't get into trouble for saying this. I however got a 3 day ban with the thread being closed. I wonder how long they will allow this guy to run rampant? It's only a problem when someone is defending African civilization is posting. Euro nuts can make as many ridiculous threads such as the OP has been doing all day and the mods won't do anything. They know very well what they are doing and I'm tired of mods being biased. We are all smart enough to know when an OP is trolling and this is a troll thread like the others the mods have done nothing about. But let me post more evidence on a thread defending that Punic Carthage had Blacks who made a up a significant portion of the population and that one would be "closed for review" in a matter of hours....Yeah I said it...just pointing out what has been going on. We need new mods. This wouldn't stand in any other section of the forums. It's well known of the African make-up and contribution of Egypt. The fact this is still up shows the biases or lack of concern for real scholarship in this section of the threads.
Or it could be that nobody reported it. If you are here seriously thinking we have biases one way or the other for any of this nonsense, you can take the train out of town.

As for the thread...these never end well, so closed.
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