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Old May 29th, 2016, 02:23 AM   #1

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i really have a simple question guys , I'm not here to prove anything to anyone just innocent question
Why historian don't consider Arab as part ancient Egyptian ?

What i know Hagar Was Egyptian , Can Historum members explain this to me? .
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i really have a simple question guys , I'm not here to prove anything to anyone just innocent question
Why historian don't consider Arab as part ancient Egyptian ?

What i know Hagar Was Egyptian , Can Historum members explain this to me? .
As far as I'm aware the Arabs didn't reach Egypt until the Muslim conquests began after Muhammad's death.
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Why historian don't consider Arab as part ancient Egyptian ?
Why should they to begin with? Egypt never reach far enough into Arabia and Middle East so why should Arab be considered a part of ancient Egypt? And it should be mentioned what ancient Egypt we are talking about since ancient Egypt last for really long time with so many things in between.

And what part of Arab we are talking about? Because Arab is a very large term. The Thamud was around for a long time but they never reached that far into Middle East until much later. I doubt they ever made contact with ancient Egypt until everyone were kicked in the ass by the Romans and the Persian and by that time, Egypt had already lost their "ancient" part.
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Guys seriously both of you need to re-read my post , Ishmael is the father of Ishmaelite Arab .

his Mother Was Hagar ( Egyptian ) His father was Abraham ( Mesopotamian ) That's why i said PART Egyptian . Abraham was born somewhere in 1852-1872 B.C.
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According to Genesis, Ishmael's wife was also Egyptian.

I guess historians don't consider Arab as part ancient Egyptian because they don't accept Genesis as reliable history.
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Guys seriously both of you need to re-read my post , Ishmael is the father of Ishmaelite Arab .

his Mother Was Hagar ( Egyptian ) His father was Abraham ( Mesopotamian ) That's why i said PART Egyptian . Abraham was born somewhere in 1852-1872 B.C.
I'm sorry, but information from the Quran (or any other religious text for that matter) cannot be considered serious proof.

Studies show that the Ancient Egyptians had a very varied population. So yes, it is most certainly possible that there were Arabs among the Ancient Egyptians.
Does this mean that it was a predominantly Arab population? Most certainly not.
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If we leave traditions in the field of traditions [not denying their value as literary reference] and we consider what documented history can tell us, we can infer that since the very beginning of the dynastic KmT [ancient Egyptians called "KmT": the pronounce "Kemet" is the result of the application of a modern convention ...] the Egypt - Asia connection has been deep and quite pervasive.

We can start from the Palette of Narmer which shows clear Sumerian influences at artistic level [see the picture on WIKI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narmer...er_Palette.jpg] and have to remark that it's an artwork realized around 3,100 BCE. But Sumerians weren't Semitic ...

This said, proper "Arabs" appeared quite late, so we have to enlarge the perspective talking of Semitic populations. And Semitic populations have had, through the centuries a lot of contacts with Egypt. This is out of doubt.

At the end, to sustain that from after the Middle Kingdom on [with the arrival of the Hyksos who were at least partially Semitic], the Semitic component of the Egyptian population was visible, is not extravagant.
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According to Genesis, Ishmael's wife was also Egyptian.

I guess historians don't consider Arab as part ancient Egyptian because they don't accept Genesis as reliable history.
Quran and Bible were the ancient people version of Marvel and DC Comic. There's no reason to believe anything written in them. Man, one thousand years later, when the new human discovered a nerd's comic collection, they may think Red Skull was real and Captain America was a Hydra agent and America had the technology to creat superhuman and super material. I mean, look, it recorded the same stuff they found when they discovered the buried ancient comic store. There's even ancient movies about it.
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Quran and Bible were the ancient people version of Marvel and DC Comic. There's no reason to believe anything written in them. Man, one thousand years later, when the new human discovered a nerd's comic collection, they may think Red Skull was real and Captain America was a Hydra agent and America had the technology to creat superhuman and super material. I mean, look, it recorded the same stuff they found when they discovered the buried ancient comic store. There's even ancient movies about it.
If Batman ever becomes a religion, I'm converting immediately. Without a second thought.
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If Batman ever becomes a religion, I'm converting immediately. Without a second thought.
Man of Steel: Are superheroes the new gods? - Telegraph
Comics are the new Bible, and devotees never tire of seeing their idols save the world. The source material is even referred to as "canon", and film-makers who dare depart from it, as they did in X-Men: the Last Stand, are shunned and excommunicated. Nit-picking theological debates abound as to whether Spider-Man's sticky webs are organic or artificial, whether the portrayal of The Mandarin in Iron Man 3 is heresy,
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