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Old July 12th, 2016, 10:13 AM   #1

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The Babylonian-Arab dynasty


Berossus was a Hellenistic-era Babylonian writer, a priest of Bel Marduk, and astronomer who wrote in the Koine Greek language, and who was active at the beginning of the 3rd century BC. Versions of two excerpts of his writings survive, at several removes from the original.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berosus

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what's important in his book to me is he described Babylonian dynasties and one of them were Arabians

"The sixth period include Arabians kings with 245 years."

"This so-called Arabian dynasty is identical with the now historically ascertained first Semitic dynasty, to which Hammurabi belonged"

how accurate is that ? and why would he say Babylon was ruled by Arabians at some point if they didn't.? he wouldn't say X ethnicity for no reason, then why Arabians ?

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Old July 12th, 2016, 10:32 AM   #2
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Probably not accurate. All I found was from the "catholic encyclopedia".

432,000 years? I wouldn't take this guy's testimony for granted.

I didn't expect to stumble upon arabocentrists when I first joined. All they do is try to claim the history of other people, which us frustrating TBH.
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Probably not accurate. All I found was from the "catholic encyclopedia".

432,000 years? I wouldn't take this guy's testimony for granted.

I didn't expect to stumble upon arabocentrists when I first joined. All they do is try to claim the history of other people, which us frustrating TBH.
I'm far from arab-centric trust me

and the number is uncertain and certainly unhistorical

Ten Chaldean Kings before the Flood According to Berosus

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what i find interesting is why berossus which he was Babylonian said Arabs ruled Babylon ?
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Berossus stories are watered down versions of last known Babylonian knowledge until the time of Henry Rawlinson, 19th century. I've never heard of a Arabian connection, one of the ten antediluvian kings?

I was reading some other post of yours about alignment of mosques to Petra and you seem to be very knowledgeable. I'm curious if you know, what is it about mosque architecture that is used to determine its orientation? I'm a believer of the green desert 13,000 years ago within that whole area and the Persian Gulf being void of salt water, do you happen to know if while making those man-made islands by dredging if they found any artifacts from the ancient past in the slurry?

Also, I would like to know what is being said on this video


And, what does it say on the Camel's Charm?
http://www.meteoritestudies.com/camelchm.jpg



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I've never heard of a Arabian connection, one of the ten antediluvian kings?

"the dynasty founded by Hammurabi appears to be the Arabian line of Berossus, which lasted under 9 kings for 245 years. Many of the kings of this period are known from the inscriptions. they first had extensive relation with the Assyrians, and about 1300 B.C. Tugulti-ninip, king of Assyria, conquered Babylon, and expelled the last Arab monarch

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I didn't expect to stumble upon arabocentrists when I first joined. All they do is try to claim the history of other people, which us frustrating TBH.
arabs (yamanians) are no different from the Europeans that do not have a history on their own so what do they do? they claim to be culturally related to the ancient greeks and thereby buy their way into the history books... isnt that too frustrating? I certainly feel frustrated when Europeans think that hellenism influenced everything which it certainly did not.
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i don't know why some people are surprised !

after all it wasn't some random Arab guy who wrote the book , he was 3rd century B.C. Babylonian guy.
which i really don't think his intention was to troll 21th century historian.


that being said, @abohotho the number is mythical which it was Mesopotamian pre-dynastic myth it wasn't supposed to be HISTORICAL per se which he used well known mythical text such as the "Sumerian king list".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List

"Berossus drew on the mythic-historiographical tradition of Mesopotamia, and specifically on such well known texts as the creation myth ''Enuma Elish", ''Atrahasis'', and the king lists, which provided the point of departure and conceptual framework for a universal history."

it give us an idea about how ancient people viewed their world.

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then when Berossus mentioned the Babylonian dynasties it was accurate and he described the history of Babylonian from creation till Nabonassaros (747 - 734 BC )

Nabonassaros:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabu-nasir
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I wish I could be around in 2000 years when somebody discovers the Da Vinci code, or Lord of the Rings.........................................
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I wish I could be around in 2000 years when somebody discovers the Da Vinci code, or Lord of the Rings.........................................
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Care to elaborate ?

Maybe people 2000 years later would think all those stories were actually right and sauron was a despotic leader/king who lived 2500 years ago ?

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