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Old September 16th, 2016, 11:45 AM   #1

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Does anyone know if there are any sites that contain bigger amounts of Ottoman sources?
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Old September 16th, 2016, 12:38 PM   #2
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is there some particular subject, source type in your mind?

i guess very few primer source are aviable online but

?SAM - ?slam Ara?t?rmalar? Merkezi has some great treasures (also good cataloges), journals and if you can read Ottoman Turkish (like 19th century provincial salnameler/yearbooks, many articles in Ottoman Turkish, and very good catalogues), also the Istanbul sharia court registers and the excellent secondary source, the Diyanet Vakfı İslam Ansiklopedisi (beating the Brill's Encyclopaedia of Islam)

The Istanbul kadi registers: .:: ?stanbul Kad? Sicilleri ::.
The Islam Ansiklopedisi .:: ?slâm Ansiklopedisi ::.

there are some Ottoman sources available online in pdf on the Prime ministry's Ottoman archives OSMANLI AR??V? DA?RE BA?KANLI?I YAYINLARI - T.C. Ba?bakanl?k Devlet Ar?ivleri Genel Müdürlü?ü incl. some of the Mühimme defters and a few tahrir defters too but not all

some Ottoman era books are also online on the Turkish parliament's library site

https://acikerisim.tbmm.gov.tr/xmlui/

on the Turkish Historical Society's homepage you can find its two great journals (Belleten, Belgeler) those also include published primer sources in them

Türk Tarih Kurumu

of course you can also find some Ottoman books online on the archive.org

And this is a manuscript catalogue of Turkey, a great one.

https://www.yazmalar.gov.tr/


and there are other academic journals or primer documents here and there on other sites too, but it really depends on what interests you in particular, some sources are published in other successor states too (for example there are some defters related to Hungary published in Hungarian on Hungarian archive and library internet sites, i guess the same is true in other countries...)

I guess you are also familiar with the Center of Ottoman Studies in Belgrade

Bibliography | Center for Ottoman Studies Belgrade

but sadly these are still just a drop in the ocean, there are some defters and manuscripts i'm really interested in, but even if they are digitalized, they are only accessible on field if i would go to the relevant archives or libraries in Turkey.

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Old September 16th, 2016, 01:21 PM   #4

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I did not doubt that you would know a lot on this subject, thanks a lot

Well my interests are social and economic history of early modern Sultanate, but we could use this thread to gather useful links about pretty much anything.
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I did not doubt that you would know a lot on this subject, thanks a lot

Well my interests are social and economic history of early modern Sultanate, but we could use this thread to gather useful links about pretty much anything.
i'm in it, sounds like a great idea (and our interests then sound quite similar, though unfortunetly i'm just an amateur history lover, but love to read for example Ottoman tereke defterleri/probate inventories and studies based on them ).

If everything can come then this is also a good collection of links of Ottoman Turkish resources, can be great for studying Ottoman Turkish

İnternet Ortamında Osmanlı Türkçesi Kaynakları

this youtube channel is giving very good lectures on Ottoman Turkish from beginner to advanced level reading of documents (in Turkish)

https://www.youtube.com/user/osmanlicaegitim/videos

Then some of the late Halil Inalcık's articles on various topics are found here
Halil İnalcık Makaleleri

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Unfortunately there weren't many primary sources on the early periods of the Ottomans - let alone online. Do you know Turkish? (If so Ottoman Turkish or Latinized Turkish or both?) I believe there were still documents in the Ottoman archives waiting for historians. The Ottoman Empire is a very big subject but we know very little about it. As for the Economical and social structure of the classical Ottomans, Halil Inalcik is the best I believe. But you have to pay for the knowledge. I think you can't really dive into primary sources in this particular subject because it was mainly based on Ottoman tahrir papers which requires quite an advanced level of Ottoman Turkish. - I mean many of that sources written in Cryptic language called Siyakat - protecting the information. Tulun do you know how to read it?

We have to rely on Inalcik's works - though I am generally quite positive about his works. Thanks god that tahrir papers wasn't used in the very early periods.

Anyway, here's some of my English sources on the early periods - online.

Dimitrie Cantemir - The history of the growth and decay of the Othman empire

Copyright free, of course. You can download the pdf there.

Gibbons - The Foundation of the Ottoman Empire


You can download this pdf, too. I really enjoy Gibbons' aggressive attitude on the subject. Fascinating.
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haha siyakat script, i wish to, but it is way too advanced level subject for me.

as far as i know still Lajos Fekete's Die Siyakat-Schrift in der Türkischen Finanzverwaltung is the most recommended book on it, and in Turkish these works:
Dündar Günday: Arşiv Belgelerinde Siyakat Yazısı Özellikleri ve Divan Rakamları
Salahaddin Elker: Divan Rakamları
Mahmud Yazır: Siyakat Yazısı
Said Öztürk: Osmanlı Arşiv Belgelerinde Siyakat Yazısı ve Tarihi Gelişimi

I have some of them (though Fekete's work not unfortunetly) but they are at the end of my reading lists, i would be satisfied to be familiar with the basics of Ottoman paleography and diplomatics so i've just read only a few introductionary books on that.

if general Ottoman history online, another classic, Hammer-Purgstall's monumental Geschichte des Osmanischen Reiches is also on archive.org (and some other works of him too) i believe (also translated to English?).

Also some sources that are online from the Hungarian Cultural Heritage Portal, unfortunetly they are in Hungarian (except some of them includes an introductory or summary in foreign langues), but maybe can be useful for Tsar since some of them also cover parts of present day Serbia (Vojvodina):

1567 and 1579 census of the Sanjak of Gyula
https://library.hungaricana.hu/hu/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

1567 and 1579 census of the sanjak of Csanád
https://library.hungaricana.hu/hu/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

settlements, inhabitants and landowners of the sanjak of Szeged in 1570
https://library.hungaricana.hu/hu/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

The taxation census in 1559 of the Sanjak of Buda

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

Demographic and econo-historical data contained in the 16th century censuses of the Sanjak of Buda

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/vi...?pg=6&layout=s

Ottoman period settlements of the Sanjaks of Temesvár and Moldova (1554-1579)

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

and two works in German:

Ludwig Fekete: Einführung in die Osmanisch-Türkische Diplomatik der Türkischen Botmässigkeit in Ungarn (Budapest, 1926) (Introduction to the Ottoman-Turkish Diplomatics of Ottoman Hungary)

https://library.hungaricana.hu/hu/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

Ludwig Fekete: Türkische schriften aus dem Archive des Palatins Nikolaus Esterházy (Budapest, 1932) (Turkish documents from the archives of Palatine Miklós Esterházy)

https://library.hungaricana.hu/hu/vi...?pg=0&layout=s

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Old September 17th, 2016, 08:17 AM   #8

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Amateur? Oh come on, I haven't seen anyone with nearly as much knowledge abot the Ottomans here

Yes, it seems that we are interested in same topics, but my knowledge is sadly very small, I'm just starting with serious research.
My knowledge is based mostly on literature.

@THE TURK

I do speak contemporary Turkish and I've started studying Ottoman Turkish about a month ago. I also have some basic knowledge of Arabic.

I've read most of Inalcik's works, but I need to get to the next level. Anyways thanks a lot on your contribution, it will surely be of use to other users.
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@Tulun

Amateur? Oh come on, I haven't seen anyone with nearly as much knowledge abot the Ottomans here

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I had a professor at Uni (a primus inter pares at European level), and he told us about an old friends of his, just an "amateur" in the field. He said he avoids professional talks with him as he didn't like to look like a noob …

It's long time I learned Tulun is that kind of "amateur" !
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Old September 17th, 2016, 09:06 AM   #10

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Tulun thanks for all these links and sources. The ottoman defters are a treasure hope all of them been carefull edited and published.

There is a series of taxation defters regarding Peloponnese, which interests me the most, and various Ottomanologists (Greeks like George Liakopoulos and Turks like Levend Kayapinar) who do a great job and with great merits to continue.
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