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Old January 3rd, 2017, 12:05 PM   #1
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Is there any descendants of the Omayyad tribe today?


Hello, if i'm correct there are alot of Alids and abbasids descendants living today, but I wonder if there are surviving descendants of the first leaders of the Califate, or maybe from the Omayyads of Cordoba?

A lot of them were killed by abbasids during the revolution and a lot also died during the fitna of Al-andalus so what happened to them?
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i've heard about families claiming descent from Othman ibn Affan (r.a.). But i'm not too familiar with the Arab genealogy resources so i don't know how authentic or well documented are the modern claims. I can also imagine having other living descendants of Umayya ibn Abd Shams, the forefather of the Banu Umayya, but maybe not from the later ruling Sufyanid and Marwanid lines.

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Hello, if i'm correct there are alot of Alids and abbasids descendants living today, but I wonder if there are surviving descendants of the first leaders of the Califate, or maybe from the Omayyads of Cordoba?

A lot of them were killed by abbasids during the revolution and a lot also died during the fitna of Al-andalus so what happened to them?
'Omeya' (Umayyad) were merely a ruling family, which was extended by all hangers-on, client families and ruling class arabs who worked in the regime. Not a tribe.

Personally I'm not convinced by the long-lost Omeya story of Abderraman I landing out the blue Med at Almuneca, who just also happened to be a great man at unifying a chaotic and bloody Spain and a fantastic talker. All his family were dead. He could have easily been anybody - if you wanted to take over a country claiming to be the long lost last Omeya is a great way to go about it, with such a thing being worthy of immense status.

Indeed during the Taifa periods there are cases of people claiming Omeya decent in order to gain/enforce status, which when traced back turn out to be of berber descent.

Claiming Omeya descent was very important to the 'masses'.

So the answer is yes, they are all out there somewhere, merged in the mists of time.
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