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Old October 7th, 2017, 12:01 AM   #41
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That is debatable but the dynasty ruled over Egypt and contributed a lot of culture and monuments during this time(Lighthouse, Library etc). Alexandria became a real centre during this time as well. Whatever you think of them notwithstanding with the possible exception of the 18th dynasty(Tut, Ramesses etc), they are by far the most popular era in Egyptian history and conquered into the Middle East at times so I'm pretty sure even if they weren't the most powerful they were far from the weakest.
The Ptolemaic was not egyptian and contributed nothing. They barely left Alexandria. Most of their monuments are from low quality and do not match the skills of real egyptian monuments. Just look how poorly made most of their art was. The people hated them. There was constant revolts. Something unknown from real Pharaoh.

Egypt had great times.

Absolute peaks were 4th dynasty. The 12th Dynasty. The 18th and 19th dynasty.

The greeks were seen as foreigners and our ancestors had no good opinion about foreigners.
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The Ptolemaic was not egyptian and contributed nothing. They barely left Alexandria. Most of their monuments are from low quality and do not match the skills of real egyptian monuments. Just look how poorly made most of their art was. The people hated them. There was constant revolts. Something unknown from real Pharaoh.

Egypt had great times.

Absolute peaks were 4th dynasty. The 12th Dynasty. The 18th and 19th dynasty.

The greeks were seen as foreigners and our ancestors had no good opinion about foreigners.
Egypt was hellenized during the plotomaic and the Greeks may have been seen as foreigners, but they also had control of Egypt for nearly 300 years.
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Egypt was hellenized during the plotomaic and the Greeks may have been seen as foreigners, but they also had control of Egypt for nearly 300 years.
So the greatest Aztec leader was queen Isabella from Spain according to your ideas.

Egypt was not hellenized. The greeks barely left Alexandria. There was little to no contact with egyptian people at all.

Tell me some egyptians in high positions during that era.

Also explain to me the constant revolts of the egyptian people against the greeks in Alexanria. Why were there never revolts against a Pharaoh but against the Greeks there was constant revolts.
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Egypt was hellenized during the plotomaic
Or even malapropismized
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Or even malapropismized
Did I make a mistake in my post or something? because if I did it's most likely an unchecked autocorrect because I'm typing from a phone.
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Did I make a mistake in my post or something? because if I did it's most likely an unchecked autocorrect because I'm typing from a phone.
Posting nonsense is not caused my mobilephones.
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Posting nonsense is not caused my mobilephones.
Do you have anyway of proving that all work of the researchers I have posted is nonsense?
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Do you have anyway of proving that all work of the researchers I have posted is nonsense?
I dont read your posts that much buddy. I fly over them, laugh and thats it. Did you post any work of researchers?

Before we sink futrther into the topic of belittleing egyptian history, why dont we debate further why the Irish culture should be named "Aztec-Irish" culture.

The Aztecs actually had big influence on irish culture.

For those who again and again want to insult Egypt with their nubian nonsense

I want to ask, what actually did my people take from this very primitive "culture"?

Our Pharaohs labelled them as cowards, primitive and savage. Pharaoh Amenmenhet II called them worthless.

Their area was seen as absolute lowest form of civilisation.

The first act most new Pharaoh did was crushing Nubia, because it was so easy to do.
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I dont read your posts that much buddy. I fly over them, laugh and thats it. Did you post any work of researchers?

Before we sink futrther into the topic of belittleing egyptian history, why dont we debate further why the Irish culture should be named "Aztec-Irish" culture.

The Aztecs actually had big influence on irish culture.

For those who again and again want to insult Egypt with their nubian nonsense

I want to ask, what actually did my people take from this very primitive "culture"?

Our Pharaohs labelled them as cowards, primitive and savage. Pharaoh Amenmenhet II called them worthless.

Their area was seen as absolute lowest form of civilisation.

The first act most new Pharaoh did was crushing Nubia, because it was so easy to do.
In other words no, in that case I'm done here.
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So the greatest Aztec leader was queen Isabella from Spain according to your ideas.

Egypt was not hellenized. The greeks barely left Alexandria. There was little to no contact with egyptian people at all.

Tell me some egyptians in high positions during that era.

Also explain to me the constant revolts of the egyptian people against the greeks in Alexanria. Why were there never revolts against a Pharaoh but against the Greeks there was constant revolts.
The problem with your logic is that Ptolemiac was ethnically Greek they didn't rule territory in Greece, aside from a brief period. The dynasty ruled from Egypt and the latter part of the dynasty was born and raised in Egypt they were not a colonial master. The Spanish also colonized the new world with their own subjects and used them to rule, Ptolemy didn't do this, even though there was a greek ethnic aristocracy.

Many native monarchs rarely never left their capitals in Europe. Alexandria was a city while established by Alexander and Ptolemy was a city that was in Egypt filled with Egyptian people. Is Cairo not a legitimate Egyptian city because it was founded by North Africans(who you've said should be shot if they cross your western border)?

Also citing individual pharaoh's doesn't mean anything seeing the hundreds of pharaohs and 30 plus dynasties over thousands of years. By that logic people in the 4th millennium will be able to cite Donald Trump and use it as an argument to talk about American beliefs towards Mexicans(who like the Nubians are southern generally weaker neighbors) despite being only 1 of America's 45 leaders up to this point. I don't think we should do this with any society. The period I care about not just in Egyptian history but history in general is everything from 1000 BC onward, basically 22nd dynasty to present for the Egyptians.

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