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Old October 8th, 2017, 08:33 AM   #61
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Thank you for proving my point.

We teached those primitive people the very basic of culture.

We are a sun. Our light shines bright and it reflects on the small and primitive nubians who saw our ancestors as gods.

It was us who made their insignificant small existance reflecting some basic principles of society.
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Old October 8th, 2017, 08:39 AM   #62

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Thank you for proving my point.

We teached those primitive people the very basic of culture.

We are a sun. Our light shines bright and it reflects on the small and primitive nubians who saw our ancestors as gods.

It was us who made their insignificant small existance reflecting some basic principles of society.
Maybe you should go back and read my first post, there were different kinds of Nubians (ones even predating Egypt)

Egyptologists have noted their influence on Egypt and other researchers
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Maybe you should go back and read my first post, there were different kinds of Nubians (ones even predating Egypt)

Egyptologists have noted their influence on Egypt and other researchers
Both your posts say how we influenced those primitive people in their territories.

I think that is something we can be proud for. We led this people out of their primitive ways.

And no, nobody noted any influence of primitive ones on Egypt.

There is not a single thing of their area that would have influence on us.
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Both your posts say how we influenced those primitive people in their territories.

I think that is something we can be proud for. We led this people out of their primitive ways.

And no, nobody noted any influence of primitive ones on Egypt.

There is not a single thing of their area that would have influence on us.

I suppose academics are lying then.
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I suppose academics are lying then.
I dont know. You lie alot. But i dont think you do it intentional. As you said yourself, brainwashed.
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I dont know. You lie alot. But i dont think you do it intentional. As you said yourself, brainwashed.

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As you said yourself, brainwashed.
Priceless coming from you

I lie alot?

Its funny how you attack me and not what's being presented and intentionally deny anything that does not fit in your idea of what you desperately want Ancient history to be like and now you call me a lier? OK stay in your little closed minded bubble safe space, you've said the similar things about other people on here and it's just getting rediculous at this stage if you can't handle the truth that's not my problem, don't start insulting me as if that makes your position seem valid, enough of this thread.

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Priceless coming from you

I lie alot?

Its funny how you attack me and not what's being presented and intentionally deny anything that does not fit in your idea of what you desperately want Ancient history to be like and now you call me a lier? OK stay in your little closed minded bubble safe space, you've said the similar things about other people on here and it's just getting rediculous at this stage if you can't handle the truth that's not my problem, don't start insulting me as if that makes your position seem valid, enough of this thread.
I will hold my promise. I guarantee you that. I dont insult me, you chose to insult me- That will not change my will to offer you a gift.
You are unable to show any nubian influence in Egypt. You show how my people settled there and teached the primitive people there a basic culture.

It will be my biggest delight to present you something in the near future.

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I will hold my promise. I guarantee you that. I dont insult me, you chose to insult me- That will not change my will to offer you a gift.
You are unable to show any nubian influence in Egypt. You show how my people settled there and teached the primitive people there a basic culture.

It will be my biggest delight to present you something in the near future.
I said go back and read my first post

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They also suggest that the migration of these nomads north as the summer rains dried up about 4,800 years ago may have stimulated the development of complex cultures and degrees of social status in predynastic Upper Egypt. Within a few hundred years, the pharaoh Djoser built the first pyramid, the step monument at Saqqara.

Egyptologist Mark Lehner of Harvard University points out that other elements of the Nabta sites suggest connections with Egyptian patterns of thought. Malville and Wendorf had noted cattle tumuli and a sculptured stone "with some resemblance to a cow" at Nabta. "Cattle iconography was still extremely important to the pharaohs of the Old Kingdom," says Lehner. And, like several of the megalithic alignments and the solstitial window at Nabta, the temples at Abydos and the pyramids at Saqqara, Giza, and Abusir are arranged along roughly northeast-southwest lines
Neolithic Skywatchers - Archaeology Magazine Archive

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At this stage in current knowledge, the Egyptians cannot be defined as colonists and the
Nubians as natives; neither can it be said that there was a new cultural entity, although
these ideas should be seriously considered. The most ancient evidence for Egyptians in
the First Cataract area is dated to Naqada IC, while the first two sub-stages of the Naqada
culture are missing here, as they are from the site of Naqada southward. At Hierakonpolis,
for example, the oldest occupation phase predates Naqada IC (Hoffman 1984), but the
cultural affiliation of the material is still unclear. This might be a matter of defining what
form the early Naqada I stage takes in the southern portion of Upper Egypt, at a time
when settlement material in particular is characterized by regional differentiation. Proving
a Nubian presence in the area prior to Naqada IC is also a difficult task, because in the
5th millennium BC both Tasian and Badarian cultures are strongly related to the Nubian
tradition. Thus it is difficult to determine whether a rippled sherd from the southern part
of Upper Egypt is Tasian, Badarian, early A-Group or something else entirely if it is not
located within a broader context. In this respect, it should also be noted that some of
the undisturbed graves in the cemeteries of the First Cataract contained Nubian objects
datable to the Early A-Group phase, but lack any Egyptian artefacts. Because of this, H.S.
Smith (1991) felt that they might be older than Naqada IC. The point to be stressed is that
in the area defined as the First Cataract region––which may include the section of the
Nile Valley from Armant to Metardul, and probably even to Dakka, and the surrounding
deserts––not only is a Nubian component always present in the material culture (with
high variability in the percentages from north to south), but the material culture also
were mixed as far as their ethnic membership is concerned: the population consisted of both Egyptians and
Nubians. The Egyptians were mainly officials and soldiers and thus male; the female component appears to
have been for the most part local and thus Nubian. The New Kingdom situation may seem very similar to that
of the Predynastic period, but this might not actually be the case. The communities Smith analysed were clearly
Egyptian or Nubian, and they adjusted their ethnic affiliation in a rather opportunistic way. In the Predynastic
period, the Egyptian and Nubian identities still shared many common traits derived from a common ancestry.
The Naqada culture developed from the Badarian culture which, as the Tasian, was related to the Nubian
Neolithic tradition (Gatto 2002; 2006c). [I]Thus, the definition of what was Egyptian or Nubian at that time in
the First Cataract region (and the southern part of Upper Egypt) is not so obvious: are the local cooking pots
(shale-tempered ware), for example, Egyptian or Nubian?: are the local cooking pots .
http://www.britishmuseum.org/researc..._13/gatto.aspx

https://archive.archaeology.org/online/news/nubia.html

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Neolithic Skywatchers - Archaeology Magazine Archive



British Museum - Gatto

https://archive.archaeology.org/online/news/nubia.html
Ah that again. How comes we are not black but look normal then?

Also how comes that their culture is super primitive while we are advanced and superior in evry aspect? You have an example where a primitive culture influenced a superior one?

Also how do you know that this cattle motive does not come from us and spred there? The entire region had cattle.

Another question, how comes that evry influence is spread from us to them and no indications can be seen other way around?

They have no scripture. They have no architecture. Nothing.
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Ah that again. How comes we are not black but look normal then?

Also how comes that their culture is super primitive while we are advanced and superior in evry aspect? You have an example where a primitive culture influenced a superior one?

Also how do you know that this cattle motive does not come from us and spred there? The entire region had cattle.

Another question, how comes that evry influence is spread from us to them and no indications can be seen other way around?

They have no scripture. They have no architecture. Nothing.

When did say anything about "black"?


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Also how comes that their culture is super primitive while we are advanced and superior in evry aspect? You have an example where a primitive culture influenced a superior one?

Ranefer, you are beginningsound both extremely denial and ignorant

This is the last time I'm posting this read it carefully so you don't miss anything

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When did I say anything about "black"?

Archaeological discoveries reveal that these prehistoric peoples led livelihoods seemingly at a higher level of organization than their contemporaries who lived closer to the Nile Valley.[2] The people of Nabta Playa had above-ground and below-ground stone construction, villages designed in pre-planned arrangements, and deep wells that held water throughout the year.

Findings also indicate that the region was occupied only seasonally, most likely only in the summer period, when the local lake filled with water for grazing cattle.[2] Comparative research indicated that the indigenous inhabitants may have a significantly more advanced knowledge of astronomy and mathematics than previously thought possible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabta_Playa

If they were primitive, everyone else around them must have been very primitive.
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