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Old November 4th, 2017, 02:40 PM   #21

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Old November 6th, 2017, 04:38 AM   #22

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Israel conquered other territories which weren't given to it by the 1947 UN Partition Plan and yet the UN doesn't appear to have cared much about it, though.
True. Although in it's defense, the UN was a new organisation in 1947, unsure of itself in many ways, and after 1967 the US was firmly on side to provide political cover for anything the Israelis did (and still does today). The UN is by and large powerless to do anything.
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How else would you descibe Israeli acquisition of territory from 1947?
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True. Although in it's defense, the UN was a new organisation in 1947, unsure of itself in many ways, and after 1967 the US was firmly on side to provide political cover for anything the Israelis did (and still does today). The UN is by and large powerless to do anything.
Yes, all of this appears to be correct.

However, couldn't Israel have argued that an Israeli conquest of the West Bank in 1949 would have also been an act of self-defense?
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Annexation.
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Yes, all of this appears to be correct.

However, couldn't Israel have argued that an Israeli conquest of the West Bank in 1949 would have also been an act of self-defense?
In international law you cannot conquer land in "self defence", period.
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Annexation.
Israel has never formally annexed any of the land occupied since 1948 except for the Golan Heights and certain areas of the West Bank in recent years, non of which has been recognised by the international community (including the USA).
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In international law you cannot conquer land in "self defence", period.
The international community hasn't challenged Israel's 1948-1949 conquest of some territories which were declared to be a part of the Palestinian Arab state by the U.N. in 1947, though.
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Israel has never formally annexed any of the land occupied since 1948 except for the Golan Heights and certain areas of the West Bank in recent years, non of which has been recognised by the international community (including the USA).
Let's be honest, their entire existence is Annexation.
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The international community hasn't challenged Israel's 1948-1949 conquest of some territories which were declared to be a part of the Palestinian Arab state by the U.N. in 1947, though.
Well it was at the time, as I recall, but the Cold war and worries about Soviet intentions in the region put the matter on a back burner. By the 1960's there appears to have been a tacit acceptance although no official recognition of Israel's territory; the matter is always subsumed into "final status" negotiations. While the conflict continues, no-one can force the Israelis to return to their original partition resolution territories.
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