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Old November 10th, 2017, 03:01 PM   #31

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There's no evidence that Amin was a cannibal. When he was asked if he ever ate human flesh he joked that he didn't because it was "too salty" for him. He didn't even take the idea seriously when he was alive so I'm not sure why people are always repeating this claim as if anything that actually proves it was ever found. I'm no fan of the guy but the constant repetition of this unsubstantiated claim is strange to me.
He had absolutely no redeeming characteristics at all ...

For Tanzania's president, Julius Nyerere (obituary, October 15 1999), Amin was "a murderer, a liar and a savage". In the perspective of history he will go down as one who damaged the cause of African nationalism. His rule of Uganda became a synonym for barbarity.
Amin was neither well educated nor particularly intelligent. But he had a peasant cunning which often outflanked cleverer opponents, including Uganda's civilian president Milton Obote, who was displaced in the 1971 coup.
He also possessed a kind of animal magnetism; a quality he used with sadistic skill in his dealings with people he wished to dominate.
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He had absolutely no redeeming characteristics at all ...

For Tanzania's president, Julius Nyerere (obituary, October 15 1999), Amin was "a murderer, a liar and a savage". In the perspective of history he will go down as one who damaged the cause of African nationalism. His rule of Uganda became a synonym for barbarity.
Amin was neither well educated nor particularly intelligent. But he had a peasant cunning which often outflanked cleverer opponents, including Uganda's civilian president Milton Obote, who was displaced in the 1971 coup.
He also possessed a kind of animal magnetism; a quality he used with sadistic skill in his dealings with people he wished to dominate.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/200...dianobituaries

How does address my point at all? Please don't just spam random links but maybe write something actually relevant to what you quoted next time.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:17 PM   #33

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Why would Africans accept outside influence and lose control over their society at the cost of wealth and the introduction of destructive Western technologies which have proven immature and outright destructive in many cases?
You people think antibiotic is good for example? What happen when antibiotics lose their effectiveness and you can't create new one to combat antibiotic resistant bacteria? Antibiotics vs natural resistance to diseases.

Africa was actually a pretty good place before Arab and European involvement. Yes, there was slavery and war in some places but it was a decent place for many. People had their granaries, pottery, comfortable huts surrounded by walls in some places. They had their musics and distinctive arts, customs, social rules etc. Would you rather live below or the slum of London or Paris? Besides, I'm not a fan of radically different civilization mixing with each other as well as migration. People should stay on their own continent. I know this sounds radical but if this trend continues the world will be singular and homogeneous without any cultural diversity.
Europeans don't like immigration but they will be quick to justify conquest and colonization. Food security, wealth etc are all overrated especially if the benefits are shortsighted.

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Old November 15th, 2017, 03:40 AM   #34
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There's actually a lot of young people like me who are passionate about Rhodesia from all over the world, Canada, USA, Britain, South Africa, Poland, Czechia etc. Sadly there's some people among them who have quite extreme leanings (they want to slot all the flopoppies), most of us are more moderate, in just for the stories, the brushstroke cammo and stuff like that.
And this doesn't strike you as incredibly juvenile? This is a country we're talking about, not some movie or video game.

If a person has no real interest in the people and culture of that area but instead has some sort of fixation on trifles and nonsense, I doubt there's a point in having any interest at all besides promoting some agenda.
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And this doesn't strike you as incredibly juvenile? This is a country we're talking about, not some movie or video game.

If a person has no real interest in the people and culture of that area but instead has some sort of fixation on trifles and nonsense, I doubt there's a point in having any interest at all besides promoting some agenda.
So you're telling me I can't have an interest in those things? Why would it matter to you? Are you trying to restrict my freedoms?
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So you're telling me I can't have an interest in those things? Why would it matter to you? Are you trying to restrict my freedoms?
Have an interest in whatever you want.

I am wondering why you appear to have an interest in things that are, in the larger scheme of things, basically trifles, and seem to know little about the culture or history of the actual people of the country, yet repeatedly write about the country.

I think it would be like me repeatedly bringing up Scotland and discussing its politics without actually knowing much about earlier or modern Scottish history or even having any interest in Scottish culture, but instead just having an interest Scottish whiskey.
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Have an interest in whatever you want.

I am wondering why you appear to have an interest in things that are, in the larger scheme of things, basically trifles, and seem to know little about the culture or history of the actual people of the country, yet repeatedly write about the country.

I think it would be like me repeatedly bringing up Scotland and discussing its politics without actually knowing much about earlier or modern Scottish history or even having any interest in Scottish culture, but instead just having an interest Scottish whiskey.
Humans are subjective creatures, it is hard to explain why one fancies one thing or the other. Why others get upset about it is equally hard to explain, I'd say.
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Humans are subjective creatures, it is hard to explain why one fancies one thing or the other. Why others get upset about it is equally hard to explain, I'd say.
Didn't say I was "upset", just said that it struck me as juvenile/immature.
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Africa was actually a pretty good place before Arab and European involvement. Yes, there was slavery and war in some places but it was a decent place for many. People had their granaries, pottery, comfortable huts surrounded by walls in some places. They had their musics and distinctive arts, customs, social rules etc. Would you rather live below or the slum of London or Paris? Besides, I'm not a fan of radically different civilization mixing with each other as well as migration. People should stay on their own continent. I know this sounds radical but if this trend continues the world will be singular and homogeneous without any cultural diversity.
Europeans don't like immigration but they will be quick to justify conquest and colonization. Food security, wealth etc are all overrated especially if the benefits are shortsighted.

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There was definitely more than just huts and granaries before European and Arab involvement though.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 04:25 AM   #40

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Didn't say I was "upset", just said that it struck me as juvenile/immature.
I got that impression, since we kind of "clashed" a few times in the past. I don't view being immature necessarrily as something bad. It's nice though that we put things straight.
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