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Old June 18th, 2011, 04:17 AM   #11

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many other ethnicitis? ZAZA? Do some of you Turks have no other Hobbies than running all through the Net and making Propaganda with their impaired knowledge of History and Geography?

between I am a Zaza from Diyarbakir.
By the look at your choice of words, you come here to sell some dirth...

Read the forum rules, dont throw dirth to anyone you dont know.

Btw I a Turk then?
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Old June 20th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #12

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Most probably they were. Xenophon talks about the Karduchi as mountain dwellers, much like the Kurds in the later years. But it's not certain if they had already adopted an Iranian language or not. Many Assyrian and Babylonian records refer to the people who lived in the same area with ethnonyms such as "Lullubi" (Which by the way, is probably a word meaning enemy, or aggressive barbarian) or "Quti", who were later conquered by the Medes. By then maybe they mixed with some tribes and their identity had undergone significant change, creating the new Karduchi people.

Also have a look at this map:
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The return path of Xenophon in the Anabasis is pretty much through the lands of Kurdistan today.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #13

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... Do some of you Turks have no other Hobbies than running all through the Net and making Propaganda with their impaired knowledge of History and Geography? ...
Sagapane,

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Your remark shows disrespect. That is the opposite of showing respect. That is not permitted.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 07:45 PM   #14
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Your remark shows disrespect. That is the opposite of showing respect. That is not permitted.
Well than some Users should first know what they are talking about. I dont have the desire, every time to make some fascistic Turks shut their mouth. Isnt it against the Rules to give wrong informations? As if a Kurd comes here and says "NO Seljuks were Oghuz and not Turks." What a ridiculous statement.

AMONG SOCIAL KURDISH GROUPS – GENERAL GLANCE AT ZAZAS
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaza_people]Zaza people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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Old July 18th, 2011, 11:55 PM   #15

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Well than some Users should first know what they are talking about. I dont have the desire, every time to make some fascistic Turks shut their mouth. Isnt it against the Rules to give wrong informations? As if a Kurd comes here and says "NO Seljuks were Oghuz and not Turks." What a ridiculous statement.

AMONG SOCIAL KURDISH GROUPS – GENERAL GLANCE AT ZAZAS
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Can you be gentlemen enough to tell us who are those fascistic mouts?
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Old July 19th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #16

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I think he is paranoiac.Leave him alone.
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Old July 19th, 2011, 03:34 AM   #17
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I dont need to explain the People who I mean. I think the Persons I refer to have already proven more than enough what I am talking about.
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Old July 19th, 2011, 11:52 AM   #18

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I dont need to explain the People who I mean. I think the Persons I refer to have already proven more than enough what I am talking about.
To talk directly.
I am highly suspicious that you dont know why you call me faschist.
I dont feel any insult in this.

I have no suspicion about my "abdest" then shall I have suspicion about my "namaz".

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It is hard to understand you people.
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I read somewhere that karduchoi tribe were originally a group of cimmerian people who migrated to eastward that is anatolia plateau. they can be ancestors of modern kurdish people judging by many elements like etimology ,life style ,language etc.Origin of cimmerian is not exactly clear but they were probably iranian group of people who spoke an indo-iranian language but not so close to other iranian groups in iranian plateau such as persians or medians. They were probably closer to scythians or thracians and that make sense because modern kurdish language also belongs to Indo-iranian branch but way different from other iranian languages like persian or pashtun especially kurdish accents that is spoken in northern and north western parts in turkey known as kurmanji.so their relation might go back to a very ancient time when all these people inhabited at same place .some historian suggested that place must be somewhere in today's kazakhstan mostly referred to as Andronovo culture. However this area that today is known as kurdistan has been settled by many different ethnicities in ancient time i would say at least ancient karduchoi (cimmerian) has played an important role in forming modern kurdish people. This can be at least one of the possible theories about origin of kurds.

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