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Old June 30th, 2011, 06:43 AM   #1

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Mohammed Ali: Father of Modern Egypt ?


No... not the boxer

Mohammed Ali helped establish autonomy in the province of Egypt. One can say it was a semi-independent land. Under his rule, Egypt had flourished, it had a powerful army. One that succeeded in driving the Wahhabis from Mecca and Medina, on the order of the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.

Though, due to the interference of Britain and France and alongside a complex set of agreements, the Egyptian army was severely reduced (after the Egyptians attacked the Ottoman empire themselves).

In the end, he had succeeded in retaining his power as a hereditary monarchy that would've lived on until the revolution of the 50s.

So, can one say that Mohammed Ali was the father of Modern Egypt ?
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No... not the boxer
At the beginning I believed that it was about him
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Yep, Mohammad Ali, an Albanian was the father of modern Egypt. He was only nominally under the Ottomans and started an ambitious plan of modernizing Egypt. This caught the eye of the big powers who could not afford a strong country at the vital Suez Canal hence their actions against him.
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He absolutely was! He built factories, sent Egyptian students to study in Europe, built modern Egyptian fleet, and created the Egyptian cotton industry!

And, above all, he gets my uttermost respect for being the first leader (I believe) to have fought and defeated the Wahabis in Saudi Arabia using Egyptian military.

P.S. to avoid confusion with the boxer, I suggest we use the Turkish way of his name which is Mehmet Ali
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Ah, for once, We Agree
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Me and you?
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Me and you?
Yes...
First time in a while
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First time in a while
Haha! What happened to your anti-Israeli signature?
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Haha! What happened to your anti-Israeli signature?
Well... Google Translate sorta nullified it... and well... some people found it a bit offensive
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Great leader, and great history unfornately it was down to a couple of traitors and hyporcrates that let his great rule end in egypt,
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