 | | Middle Eastern and African History Middle Eastern and African History Forum - Egypt, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and all nations of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula | 
August 25th, 2011, 10:51 AM
|
#1 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Central Macedonia Posts: 17,763 | Iraq and Iran: Their relationship throughout modern history
Although I am aware of the eight year war in the 1980s, I am not quite sure about how it all started: When did bilateral relations start to deteriorate? Do they still hate each other? Was there a time where they were friendly to each other?
I am not talking about ancient history now. Let's focus only on the historical relations after the Arabic expansion to both countries...
| | | 
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 01:01 PM
|
#2 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2009 From: Nebraska Posts: 3,474 |
Right after the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979 and when Saddam took power in the same year, 1979.
Most of the time they're friendly, as people we have nothing against each other, but we hate their government and our government which is a puppet to Iran, basically.
But, during the Ottoman rule, Iraq has always served as the Eastern gatekeeper of the Ottoman empire against the Persian Safavids in Iran.
| | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 01:18 PM
|
#3 | | Persicus Maximus
Joined: Sep 2010 From: Bahrain Posts: 9,962 | Both are friendly to each other,as far as people are concerned.
Its the politicians actually... and of course, the idiots who go *puff* around the place...
@Satuf, do you know how many times Iraq switched hands between the Safavids and Ottomans ? 
| | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 01:25 PM
|
#4 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2009 From: Nebraska Posts: 3,474 |
It's always been ruled by Sunnis... lol
| | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 01:28 PM
|
#5 | | Persicus Maximus
Joined: Sep 2010 From: Bahrain Posts: 9,962 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Satuf  It's always been ruled by Sunnis... lol | No.. it wasn't. What are the Safavids, then ? 
Iraq has a significant Shia population. It is possibly the largest religious group in Iraq, if I'm not mistaken. | | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 01:31 PM
|
#6 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2009 From: Nebraska Posts: 3,474 |
Iraq was never long enough under the Saffavids!
| | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 04:34 PM
|
#7 | | Archivist
Joined: Oct 2010 From: London, UK Posts: 200 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Satuf It's always been ruled by Sunnis... lol | and yet it is the center of the Shia world.
oh and I didn't realise the Mesopotamians, Babylonians, Sumerians and Akkadians were Sunnis  | | | |
| | |
August 25th, 2011, 08:27 PM
|
#8 | | Historian
Joined: Nov 2009 From: Nebraska Posts: 3,474 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sayid Gishta and yet it is the center of the Shia world.
oh and I didn't realise the Mesopotamians, Babylonians, Sumerians and Akkadians were Sunnis | Oh and I did realize that you didn't read the topic! READ IT!
Thessalonian is wondering about post-Arab invasion, not ancient times.  | | | |
| | |
August 26th, 2011, 04:01 AM
|
#9 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Aug 2010 From: Central Macedonia Posts: 17,763 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Satuf Oh and I did realize that you didn't read the topic! READ IT!
Thessalonian is wondering about post-Arab invasion, not ancient times. | Indeed.  | | | |
| | |
August 26th, 2011, 06:10 AM
|
#10 | | Guanarteme
Joined: Feb 2010 From: Canary Islands-Spain Posts: 2,257 |
Between the Achaemenid rule and the Ottoman expansion, Iraq and Iran have been the same country most of the time.
Actually, Iraq was the centre of the Persian power during the Parthian and Sassanid periods.
However, apart from the Kurdish north, what today is Iraq has been since the 2000 BC a Semitic area. This means that there are a cultural frontier between the two countries, though some areas in southern Iran are Semitic too.
| | | |
| | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode |
Copyright © 2006-2013 Historum. All rights reserved.
|  |
