macro

The province of Cannakkale has witnessed two very important battles in history. One of them is the mythological war of Troy, which Homer immortalized in his Iliad. Archaeological digs in Troy have proved that there had been nine separate periods of settlement.

The other important battle can be considered as the Battle of Canakkale, the so called Gallipoli Campaign, which took place during World War I when Turkish troops under the command of Ataturk maintained the defense of the region against enemy forces. In WW1 The allied forces (from Greece, Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand and India) attacked the Turks. Funnily enough this battle has been fought at the same place where the battle of Troy took place. As you all know Trojans where Hellenized Anatolian and the Turks are Turkified Anatolians. The Greeks and their alies wanted to do the same what happened in the Trojan war.

What was the real cause of both of these conflicts? Anatolians awesome geopolitical location. The real aim of the war was to acquire this wealth. The Dardanelles saw another epic major naval battle centuries later: the Battle of Gallipoli. Winston Churchill, the First Lord of the Admiralty, sent soldiers from Europe, Australia and New Zealand to attack the Dardanelles. Ironically, the Allied flagship was called the HMS Agamemnon.

After the Turkish victory, Ataturk is said to have cried, "Hector, we have avenged you."

Pythagoras

Nice premise.

Honestly, though, I don't see any connection between the semi-mythological war and the Gallipoli campaign. And if I am not mistaken, Greeks did not participate in the latter.

I can not see the connection between Hector and Kemal either.

macro

Trojan people were Anatolian. Turkish people are Anatolian too.

Both of those war had one function: Greek occupation of Anatolia.

Brisieis

Turkish people are not the same people as lived there thousands of years ago.

As for the OP, there is no connection, sorry.

Iolo

How do you know? Because peoples change languages and religions doesn't mean they suddenly disappear. Where there is continuing agriculture there is normally genetic persistence, as far as I know: new owners need people who know the land surely? We mustn't judge by the ethnic cleansing imposed by Europeans on hunter-gatherers and pastoralists I think.

macro

Good point.

Turkish people turkified their subject instead of massacring them like Europeans did in Native America. That is how Turkish people gained in numbers. Turkish people are genetically Anatolian. Ataturk was right when he said those words.

Don't mistake that Anatolians were Greek. Greeks invaded Anatolia and hellenized the locals.

Pythagoras

My knowledge on genetics is limited and therefore, I do not question whether today's inhabitants of this particular area were similar with those of the 2nd Millennium BC. However, I still fail to see any connection between the semi-mythological Hector and Ataturk. Did they have any similarities at all?

Again, besides the fact that the Trojan War was a semi - mythological event that we do not have any valid information about, can you explain me how the Gallipoli campaign had as an objective the Greek occupation of Anatolia?

Aren't you confusing it perhaps with the Minor Asia campaign that occurred few years later?

p.s: To be precise, even geographically, there is no connection between the Trojan war and Gallipoli campaign either.

macro

Pythagoras you don't understand the idea. Ataturk defeated the Allies and Greek Army, Greek Army indeed later in asia minor campaign. Ataturk said that he defeated the Greek army in the name of Hector of Troy who fought the same battle against the Greeks. What you don't understand about this, I don't understand.

Pythagoras

I think you are confused, macro. How is the Greek army related with the Gallipoli campaign??? Gallipoli campaign was part of World War I and had nothing to do with the Minor Asian campaign that occurred few years later.

Just take a look:

Mainly, it was the British Empire and France against the Ottomans.

macro

I already corrected that in my last message. Besides that it doesn't matter.