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Old November 14th, 2012, 01:06 PM   #321

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To me over the past millenium Iran has been primarily an Azeri/Persian nation. I look at the history of Iran in that light,and to me the Safavid at their best reflected that genius, a Turko-Persian element. What I find disturbing now is the element of competition that now exists between the two groups, I rather see a peaceful coexistence and cooperation.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #322

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"Not this schit again".

D you actually have some kind of knowledge on the subject yourself or are you just going to quote links?

First of all, the source is Iranian, secondly its impossible to determine millions of people on the basis of 100 individuals. Thirdly, the same kind of stuff claims that Azeri Turks of Caucasus and Iran are two different populations, does that sound logical to you by any sense? And such things does not mean that much when you live in a region for a millenium.

If you just care to read other posts here, we have talked about it. And why do you ignore the points mentioned here, so why rest of Iran are not speaking Turkic now.

I'm seriously sick of what it seems to me as bots who pop-up and post the same BS over and over.
So everyone should just agree with you and your ethnocentric agenda.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #323
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Antocya, can you please stop trolling my posts?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #324

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We're on a discussion forum so sometimes people aren't going to agree with you, it's not just a case of people being stubborn and not accepting your "facts". If you try to deny that people other than Turks have a place in the history of Iran and the South Caucasus then you got to expect some people are going to question that.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:56 PM   #325
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I think you can follow your own advice, that we are on a discussion forum, so why don't you stop trolling over everything that I say. You are yet to actually present any kind of discussion.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #326

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I don't want to fall into just bickering with you.

What I've pointed out before is that you seem so driven by ethnic nationalism and you are twisting history into denying other ethnic groups their place in Iran and the South Caucasus. It's not trolling to point that out.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 12:26 AM   #327
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Like what? The way you write, is like a giving the headline but no details. So yes, you are actually trolling.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 03:17 AM   #328

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You're the one who called someone's post schit and BS just for not agreeing with you and then said his source wasn't valid because it's Iranian. I pointed out that you're driven by ethnocentric nationalism because you have an agenda and I don't need page-long essays to do it. Rostam was not trying to deny Turks a place in Iran's history so there's no need for you to blast him just because he doesn't agree entirely with your ideas of ethnic self-flattery.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 04:32 AM   #329
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You really have some issues, I explained why its illogical. I don't know where in the world they determine millions of people on basis of 100 individuals. And yes the source is very obscure.

Also, only posts of Rostam seems to be on this subject, which is kinda weird. And you accuse me with having an agenda.

I'm sick of your anti-Turk propaganda here in some threads, and you also have repeteadly accused me of hating other groups which you seem so sensitive about. So please just stop trolling.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 04:42 AM   #330

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Do you expect them to do DNA tests on every single individual? That's kind of how a survey works.

How on earth do I have anti-Turk propaganda? You have said repeated racist things against Kurds and I've never made a single anti-Turkish statement. It's pretty rich of you to say I'm anti-Turk.
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