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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:07 PM   #1

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Middle Eastern Tranquility.


I have been pondering this for quite a while, and would like to know what people from other countries, as well as the U.S., think will solve the ongoing unrest in the Middle East? If all non-Muslim people totally left the area, would that finally solve the problems of constant fighting?

Just trying to find out what I don't seem to be able to figure out for myself. Thanks.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:20 PM   #2

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I dont think that there is anything that will bring an end to the conflict in the Middle East. Religious fanaticism will ensure that any voices of moderation are silenced. At best there will be a cold war situation with two heavily armed camps watching each other for the slightest wrong move.

Even if all the non Muslim peoples were to leave the area, the Muslims may well see this 'victory' as a hopeful sign that they will be able to re-establish the Caliphate and Muslim expansion attempts into Europe may cause even more conflict, although infighting between the various ME nations and Islamic sects may limit their ablilty to do this.
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Secularism.

It will come eventually, it is just a matter of how long it will take.
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I dont think that there is anything that will bring an end to the conflict in the Middle East. Religious fanaticism will ensure that any voices of moderation are silenced. At best there will be a cold war situation with two heavily armed camps watching each other for the slightest wrong move.

Even if all the non Muslim peoples were to leave the area, the Muslims may well see this 'victory' as a hopeful sign that they will be able to re-establish the Caliphate and Muslim expansion attempts into Europe may cause even more conflict, although infighting between the various ME nations and Islamic sects may limit their ablilty to do this.
Well, that is similar to what I have come up with in my own mind so far.
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I have been pondering this for quite a while, and would like to know what people from other countries, as well as the U.S., think will solve the ongoing unrest in the Middle East? If all non-Muslim people totally left the area, would that finally solve the problems of constant fighting?

Just trying to find out what I don't seem to be able to figure out for myself. Thanks.
it wont solve anything. there are factions that will fight each other over territory control and imposing their islamic sect. imagine by some miracle, all the jews left israel. egypt, syria, jordan and ksa will hone in on it right away. egypt claims it's the extension of the sinai peninsula; syria claims it was once part of the greater syria vilayet; jordan will all of a sudden claim palestinians are actually hashemites (which is true) and needs to protect them; ksa might also join the conflict (via paying mercenaries like FSA) for exporting their wahhabism or out of fear of a new republic that can fuel anti-royal interests of ksa.

all these what for? for a fistful of land that is claimed to be holy.
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There will never be peace in the region; just too many variables to easily upset people.
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There will never be peace in the region; just too many variables to easily upset people.
i mean india, usa, russia, china they are all large countries (both population and land) but arabs are living in separate states. i think this answers OP's question.
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I have been pondering this for quite a while, and would like to know what people from other countries, as well as the U.S., think will solve the ongoing unrest in the Middle East? If all non-Muslim people totally left the area, would that finally solve the problems of constant fighting?
No, the animals would still fight each other. Sunna vs Shia. if all muslism left the area for the non-muslims, than i belive some tranquility will reach the middle east.
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Secularism.

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it's not going to come in the next 100 years or so, so don't hold your breath.

BTW people should know that middle-eastern is'nt just israel-arab, it's mostly shia-sunna, israel is just a tool by the dictators to divert the people from the oppression the people themselves face every day.
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No, the animals would still fight each other. Sunna vs Shia. if all muslism left the area for the non-muslims, than i belive some tranquility will reach the middle east.

In a gesture of cortesy toward Muslims, other monotheistic and choosen by God peoples should leave the area with them
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it wont solve anything. there are factions that will fight each other over territory control and imposing their islamic sect. imagine by some miracle, all the jews left israel. egypt, syria, jordan and ksa will hone in on it right away. egypt claims it's the extension of the sinai peninsula; syria claims it was once part of the greater syria vilayet; jordan will all of a sudden claim palestinians are actually hashemites (which is true) and needs to protect them; ksa might also join the conflict (via paying mercenaries like FSA) for exporting their wahhabism or out of fear of a new republic that can fuel anti-royal interests of ksa.

all these what for? for a fistful of land that is claimed to be holy.
Sounds like you know your history of the area. As a typical American, I don't know much about that area's history. Even though I am a Republican, I was seriously against former President Bush sending our forces into that area. I knew it would turn into something like the Viet Nam war - in other words, it would never have an end. America sucks as a nation builder, and it needs to stay out of that business. Thanks for you input and knowledge of the area and its past.
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