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Old June 24th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #1
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the worlds most badass country


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Gerald Hanley is an old Colonial hand who lived with Somalis. This is from his book Warriors: Life and Death Among the Somalis

"A Somali always felt himself to be twice as good as any white man, or
any other kind of man at all, and still does, even when he is wrong.

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"Of all the desiccated, bitter, cruel, sunbeaten wildernesses which
starve and thirst beyond the edges of Africa's luscious, jungled centre,
there cannot be one more Christless than the one which begins at the
northern foot of Mount Kenya and stretches to the foothills of Abyssinia,
and from there to the dried-out glittering tip of Cape Gardafui where the
hot karif winds blow in from where the long sharks race under the thin
blue skin of the ocean. You can never think of those wildernesses without
thinking of daggers and spears, rolling fierce eyes under mops of dusty
black crinkly hair, of mad stubborn camels, rocks too hot to touch, and
blood feuds whose origins cannot be remembered, only honoured in the
stabbing. But of all the races of Africa there cannot be one better to
live among than the most difficult, the proudest, the bravest, the
vainest, the most merciless, the friendliest; the Somalis."

never saw a Somali who showed any fear of death, which, impressive
though it sounds, carries within it the chill of pitilessness and
ferocity as well. If you have no fear of death you have none for anybody
else's either, but that fearlessness has always been essential to the
Somalis who have had to try and survive hunger, disease and thirst while
prepared to fight and die against their enemies, their fellow Somalis for
pleasure in the blood feud, or the Ethiopians


This book will tell you about the way of life amongst somalis, the italian mafia will become Little cats compared to the way the somalis live, the code of honor, is sat on high level! so between life and death is always close amongst the somalis..
so instead they learn to behave themselfs in good manner..

Warriors: Life and Death Among the Somalis PDF


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"There is no one alive as tough as the Somali nomad. No one.
An askari wounded in a fight in the Haud country walked 14 miles holding
his guts in his hand, was sewn up and lived to soldier again. And the
women are as spiritually strong as their men."
this is from another book, and all this is wrote by our enemies. so its not a self praise. the book is called blood and bone the call of kinship in somali society by I.M lewis

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There is something about pastoralist nomads that makes them quite proud and war like, yes. When the British ruled over British East Africa (Kenya) they used to frequently imprison Bantus, but they would only fine Somalis because they came to find out that Somalis had the odd habit of dying in solitary confinement and thus illiciting vengeance from their immediate kin. So to save them the trouble they just started fining Somalis.

I think it stem from the prestige imbued on warriors in nomadic culture, and the fact that military prowess was rewarded. Warfare always had been an important factor in relations with outsiders such as the Ethiopian Christians and the Oromo and even with other Somali clans. The lack of modern weapons, however, prevented the Somalis from successfully resisting the imposition of European colonial rule.

Antagonists in inter-Somali conflicts generally belonged to groups bound by their commitment to pay or receive "diya" (blood money). Because the entire group would be considered responsible for paying diya to compensate for damages inflicted, and would receive diya for its own losses, a war would begin only with the unanimous approval of its likely participants. A meeting of the elders of the warring groups was the usual means of restoring peace. The elders would determine which group was responsible for starting the war and would decide compensation, usually camels, for damages incurred. The group judged responsible for starting the war normally would be the only one fined unless it emerged the victor. In a jihad (holy war) against infidels and in most conflicts against non-Somalis, such rules would not apply.
you can read the entire book here: Blood and Bone: The Call of Kinship in Somali Society - I. M. Lewis - Google Books

Some quotes from European explorers:



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THE first thing to understand about the Somalis is that they are not as other men. Richard Burton, the famous Arabist and explorer who trekked across their lands in the 1850s, called the Islamic Somali nomads a ''fierce and turbulent race of republicans''. More pungently, a Ugandan sergeant with the British forces fighting the Mad Mullah went on record as telling his officer: ''Somalis, Bwana, they no good: each man his own sultan.''

In other words, they take orders from nobody; and their sense of independence is matched by a supremely uncentralised and fragmented degree of political organisation, a kind of ordered anarchy. The basis of political allegiance is blood kinship, or genealogy. Children learn their ancestors' names by heart back to 20 generations and more. A Somali does not ask another where he is from but whom he is from. Strangers who meet, recite their genealogies until they reach a mutual ancestor the more closely they are related the more readily they unite, transiently, against others: ''Myself against my brother; my brother and I against my cousin; my cousin and I against the outsider.''
This page explains it better than anything else I came across on the web:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=LR8A...page&q&f=false


This book is modern day: called Pirate terrorism at sea

Pirate State: Inside Somalia's Terrorism at Sea PDF

their is still many books..

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Slavery_in_Somalia Slavery_in_Somalia

they were the most brutal slave owners of all time..

when the adal sultanate captured the ethiopian kingdom, they forced them to eat their dead soldiers, and the cities were destroyed to the ground, their women were taken.

and until this day, the highlanders of ethiopia eat uncooked meat, they never use to cook their meat because they believed that Ahmed gurey, would see their fires and come back.. so they still eat uncooked meat, until this day..

the ethiopians say they never recovered from the genocide of Ahmed gurey until this day.. close to the mongol type genocide..

Their is still some arab slaves until this day in somalia also, because many arabs come as immigrants, they thought their White skins would save them from slavery but no they were wrong..

also the somali empires use to rule the arabs..

The Geledi sultanate (
Somali_language Somali_language
: Saldanadda Geledi,
Arabic_language Arabic_language
: سلطنة غلدي ‎) was a
Somalia Somalia
Sultanate Sultanate
that ruled parts of the
Horn_of_Africa Horn_of_Africa
during the 18th and 19th centuries. The Sultanate was governed by the Gobroon Dynasty. It was established by the Geledi soldier
Ibrahim_Adeer Ibrahim_Adeer
, who had defeated various
Vassal Vassal
of the
Ajuuraan_State Ajuuraan_State
and founded the House of Gobroon. The
Dynasty Dynasty
reached its apex under the successive reigns of
Sultan Sultan
Yusuf_Mahamud_Ibrahim Yusuf_Mahamud_Ibrahim
, who successfully consolidated Geledi power during the
Bardera Bardera
, and
Sultan Sultan
Ahmed Yusuf, who forced regional powers such as the
Oman Oman
to submit
Tribute Tribute
.

Sultan Ahmed yusuf forced the Omani empire to submit, for him...

Geledi_Sultanate Geledi_Sultanate

the neighbour arabs poems use to recite about this mysterious warriors on the horn. they feared them and respected them..

A somali never believed in being ruled, but only being a ruler.. the ottoman empire ruled the arab countries, but were Allies with the two somali empire..

sacrifics were also common amongst somalis.. giving your life for Islam!!



the somali Amirs had also slave mamluke soldiers..

The Ajuuraan Empire had a standing army with which the Gareen imams and the governors ruled and protected their subjects. The bulk of the army consisted of
Mamluke Mamluke
soldiers,[24] who did not have any loyalties to the traditional Somali clan system, thereby making them more reliable. The soldiers were recruited from the inter-riverine area; other recruits came from the surrounding nomadic region.
Arab Arab
,
Persian_people Persian_people
and
Turkish_people Turkish_people
mercenaries were at times employed as well

Also when the European superpowers came to the coast of somali, they found out that this were never going to be the new World..

they got reality check, never returning to that land Again..

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They also fought the longest war against the colonization ever fought. Mohammed Abdullah Hassan aka Mad Mullah

26 years of hard war against armies with better technology..

and defeated the British 4 times.. the North somalis sacrificed half of its people on that war..

it were the first time on earth, airplanes were used, and it were on somali soil..

actully the British empire were about to give up on somalia, because the war lasted so long, so after they used the airplanes, they got Victory.

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Nice info, but one's nationality has no determination on 'badassery'.
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Nice info, but one's nationality has no determination on 'badassery'.
sometimes you just get born to badassery

what is a badass according to u
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sometimes you just get born to badassery

what is a badass according to u
I didn't invent the word, and I don't use it very often, so I don't agonize over its definition. Though I'd like to think I see it when I look in the mirror

Wouldn't want to derail your thread further, carry on.
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I didn't invent the word, and I don't use it very often, so I don't agonize over its definition. Though I'd like to think I see it when I look in the mirror

Wouldn't want to derail your thread further, carry on.
Son of ra will enter this debate..

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I take it you're a Somali?
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Somalia is so badarse that infrastructure has collapsed, functioning government is non existent and its people are starving and dependent on handouts from others.

Yep, pretty cool and badarse all right.
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Somalia is so badarse that infrastructure has collapsed, functioning government is non existent and its people are starving and dependent on handouts from others.

Yep, pretty cool and badarse all right.
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