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Old January 29th, 2014, 11:51 PM   #11

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Well, that thread has been closed, because of some posters' antiquated desire to claim that there were no "black" pharaohs of Egypt. If there's another thread that has not been closed, please direct me to it. Until such time, I will pass on what snippets I read on this one....

I would like to think that now we accept that the 25th dynasty was "black", we can discuss this like mature adults....

Alara was succeeded by his brother Kashta, who married his sister Pebtatma.

"Kashta was affirmed by the priests of Amun when he arrived in Thebes....To the Egyptian priests threatened as they were from the north and long accustomed to rely on Nubian troops for their protection, the rise of a new and effective commander may well have appeared as a deliverance.They hastened to recognise him and to claim his protection. Kashta's assumption of power at Thebes set the stage for a brief, meteoric appearance of Kush as a world power." p127

He was the first of the dynasty to reside at Napata permanently.
Actually, it is pretty much mainstream history that the 25th was a Nubian dynasty.

The Nubians were no joke. They had extremely ancient civilizations of their own, contested against and were in many ways intertwined with Egypt, marched with Hannibal, defeated Persia, survived invasions from Rome, Assyria, Macedonia, had their own writing, were excellent iron workers, built their own pyramids, were excellent archers, horsemen and elephant trainers, and were valued as mercenaries even into the middle ages, where they served on both sides of the crusades.

One of the great peoples of ancient history.
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The also invaded Egypt citing how the Egyptians had strayed reigiously from the proper worship of Amun. So the Nubian pharao had to invade to bring them back on the religous straight and narrow. Which he successfully did.
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Nubians were also better sailors and tradesmen than their Egyptian counterparts. They had a massive trading network extending as far as Indonesia.
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I am also interested in learning more about Nubia and other black empires.
Clemmie, I have something for you. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to videotape a tour of the Nubian Museum in Aswan, Egypt. Part of the video is just our guide using the props in the museum to explain and bring together all the places we had visited. However, we looked at the exhibits as well. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to linger over everything but you may find the video interesting.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBB1bkvgYDY]Nubian Museum Tour - YouTube[/ame]
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Clemmie, I have something for you. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to videotape a tour of the Nubian Museum in Aswan, Egypt. Part of the video is just our guide using the props in the museum to explain and bring together all the places we had visited. However, we looked at the exhibits as well. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to linger over everything but you may find the video interesting.

Nubian Museum Tour - YouTube
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In medieval times the Nubians became the protectors of the coptic christians in egypt. The Makurians sacked Cairo in the 8th century as a affront to Egyptian persecution of Copts, and Ethiopia in the Middle Ages after sending an expedition by lalibela(perhaps later not entirely sure) saw the conditions in which the copts lived in and later even threatened to dam the nile.

These little snippets of history are courtesy of the thousand year history of the church in asia, africa, and how it died. Good reading.
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Nubians were also better sailors and tradesmen than their Egyptian counterparts. They had a massive trading network extending as far as Indonesia.

Source?
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Hey SonofRa check your pms on egyptsearch, and tell blingdogg to check his too!
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See The Eastern Origins of Western Civilization (2004) by John M. Hobson, pgs 40-41.
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Egypt was a massive civilisation based on some fairly unique suitability for agriculture making it populous anr rich, but never really much of a trading nation (not that necessary for it). If the Nubians had different challenges, they would have come up different responses.
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