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View Poll Results: Which Persian Empire Was the Most Prestigous?
Achaemenid Empire 57 60.64%
Parthian Empire 3 3.19%
Sasanian Empire 23 24.47%
Safavid Empire 8 8.51%
Afsharid Empire 1 1.06%
Zand Empire 0 0%
Qajar Empire 0 0%
Pahlavi Empire 0 0%
I can't decide for sure. 2 2.13%
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Old March 5th, 2015, 01:54 AM   #1

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The Most Prestigious Persian Empire


The Persian people have dominated many regions from Anatolia to Khorasam and from Arabia and to the Caucasus. Persia also served as an intellectual powerhouse in the Middle East, attracting many intellectuals throughout the world. Its culture was admired by their subordinates and neighbors. Persian legacy of military, innovations, and culture surely have left their mark on history. But out of the several Persian empires, which one was the most prestigious in general?
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Old March 5th, 2015, 04:17 AM   #2
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Achaemenid Empire - all day long

(this is purely a personal choice based on my own perspective for impact on other civ's and great leaders/Kings that the Empire created)
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Definitely the Sassanid Empire. Its political, military, cultural, and religious influence extended far beyond the Empire's domains, and its legacy has outlived the Sassanid dynasty itself. Iran as a political entity was created by the Sassanids, and during their long reign Iranian civilisation reached its peak, witnessing a renaissance of Iranian culture and a strengthening of Iranian political, economic, and military power.

Now, the Achaemenid Empire was much larger than the Sassanid, and its ability to project power was clearly superior, but culturally it was inferior to the Sassanid Empire, and the reason for this was that during the Achaemenid era Iranian civilisation was still in its infancy, and the Iranians themselves were relatively new players on the scene. The Persians managed to establish a world empire ruled by an extraordinary dynasty via an efficient and innovative administrative system, but their cultural contributions were minimal in comparison to the Sassanids. Though the Achaemenids did set the standard in terms of royal culture and ancient imperial administration.

Overall, the Sassanids were more prestigious, and unlike the Achaemenids, their military was much more capable of dealing with all kinds of enemy, including the Romans. They continue to occupy a special place in Iranian history and culture.

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The Safavid empire because modern Iran is basically the cultural continuity of the Safavids. They had the greatest influence and impact on modern Iranians despite being of Turkic origin
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Sassanids. This was where the Persian identity really took form and began one of the major cultural forces in the world. Also points for being the last Zoroastrian Persia since this was when the religions was the most prominent.
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Definitely the Sassanid Empire. Its political, military, cultural, and religious influence extended far beyond the Empire's domains, and its legacy has outlived the Sassanid dynasty itself. Iran as a political entity was created by the Sassanids, and during their long reign Iranian civilisation reached its peak, witnessing a renaissance of Iranian culture and a strengthening of Iranian political, economic, and military power.

Now, the Achaemenid Empire was much larger than the Sassanid, and its ability to project power was clearly superior, but culturally it was inferior to the Sassanid Empire, and the reason for this was that during the Achaemenid era Iranian civilisation was still in its infancy, and the Iranians themselves were relatively new players on the scene. The Persians managed to establish a world empire ruled by an extraordinary dynasty via an efficient and innovative administrative system, but their cultural contributions were minimal in comparison to the Sassanids. Though the Achaemenids did set the standard in terms of royal culture and ancient imperial administration.

Overall, the Sassanids were more prestigious, and unlike the Achaemenids, their military was much more capable of dealing with all kinds of enemy, including the Romans. They continue to occupy a special place in Iranian history and culture.
Very informative comment.
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The Safavid empire because modern Iran is basically the cultural continuity of the Safavids. They had the greatest influence and impact on modern Iranians despite being of Turkic origin
Turkic-Greek-Kurdish-Georgian-Armenian the Safavids were very mixed.
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In my book, both Achaemenids and Sassanids lay about equal claim, albeit in different ways. And I see the Sassanids as a kind of Achaemenids reborn.

The Sassanids might hv projected an aura of formidable military strength, but don't forget, the Achaemenids prevailed & dominated over the Greeks, Macedonians & Thracians for a long time. Let alone the nomadic steppe Scythians perennially threatening their farthest borders.

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In my book, both Achaemenids and Sassanids lay about equal claim, albeit in different ways. And I see the Sassanids as a kind of Achaemenids reborn.

The Sassanids might hv projected an aura of formidable military strength, but don't forget, the Achaemenids prevailed & dominated over the Greeks, Macedonians & Thracians for a long time. Let alone the nomadic steppe Scythians perennially threatening their farthest borders.
You know, I'm beginning to doubt the traditional theory of the Achaemenid military's incapability of effectively dealing with Greek hoplite warfare. I have read some interesting things that are encouraging me to reconsider that view. More research in that particular area is undoubtedly needed before I jump into any conclusion.
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Overall, the Sassanids were more prestigious, and unlike the Achaemenids, their military was much more capable of dealing with all kinds of enemy, including the Romans.
Not always. I don't think the Sassanids were necessarily better than the Parthians in that their power fluctuated considerably. They certainly gained prestige under Sapor I but their power soon dissapated. Odenathus reached the area of Ctesiphon just a couple of years after Valerian was taken, and a few years after that. I believe Carus captured Ctesiphon as did Galerius, so that by 300 CE the Romans were actually in a better position in the East than ever before.
Julian was beaten strategically but tactically his forces did quite well. The Sassanids hesitated to take him on in open battle.

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