Rhino now extinct !!!!!!!!!!!!! - Historum

dreuxeng · April 17th, 2016, 03:03 PM

the northern white rhino......
......
now extinct, and made extinct by the human race.........

I only found out only today: there used to be masses of news items here in the U.K. all about save the rhino, (the black rhino and the white rhino), right across the late 1980s and 1990s......

(haven't heard anything for a good ten years. was expecting (via Horizon documentary) update report of preservation, reservation, breeding programs etc successful to some number or other: nope)

speechless....

that we as a species could have made a thing as unmissable as the northern white rhino, completely extinct, across the entire face of the Earth....

beyond belief......

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a graven black marker.

**Pedro** · April 17th, 2016, 03:44 PM

Google says there are three whites surviving. [?]

MJuingong · April 17th, 2016, 07:39 PM

If I recall correctly, the white rhino was naturally declining, poaching gave the final push.

dreuxeng · April 18th, 2016, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedro

Google says there are three whites surviving. [?]

Sure, but just a matter of time (all three are old and infertile) before these last are no more......

dreuxeng · April 18th, 2016, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MJuingong

If I recall correctly, the white rhino was naturally declining, poaching gave the final push.

Yes it seems it was old mankind once again, destroying habitats: logging, new towns, palm oil, probably, but poaching is allegedly responsible for much of it. The southern white rhino was doing okay in Zimbabwe from some point onwards during the 1990s: but only after all the noise and hubbub about 'SAVE THE RHINO'...

A small reservation (and monitoring) has saved the Californian condor: there were just 22 still living, anywhere in the world a few years back, now there are a couple of hundred.....(the lead from bullets used in hunting regular game, subsequently eaten as road kill by the condor, has killed 59 however).

dreuxeng · April 18th, 2016, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MJuingong

If I recall correctly, the white rhino was naturally declining, poaching gave the final push.

Luke of Suffolk · April 18th, 2016, 09:12 AM

The Human Race - destroyer of those below us

**starman** · April 18th, 2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dreuxeng

A small reservation (and monitoring) has saved the Californian condor: there were just 22 still living, anywhere in the world a few years back, now there are a couple of hundred.....(the lead from bullets used in hunting regular game, subsequently eaten as road kill by the condor, has killed 59 however).

Can it survive inbreeding? I heard the North Atlantic right whale, like the pacific right, is projected to become extinct in 200 years even though there are now a few hundred--more than at the height of the whaling industry.

dreuxeng · April 18th, 2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke of Suffolk

The Human Race - destroyer of those below us

given half a chance, and the tendency to corruptness what is there to gain.....

just being part of it perhaps ??

or part of something (howsoever).

dreuxeng · April 18th, 2016, 09:55 AM

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Can it survive inbreeding? I heard the North Atlantic right whale, like the pacific right, is projected to become extinct in 200 years even though there are now a few hundred--more than at the height of the whaling industry.

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On a global level, the Convention on the Conservation of Migratory Species of Wild Animals (CMS, or the “Bonn Convention”) is a multilateral treaty  specializing in the conservation of migratory species, their habitats  and migration routes. CMS has listed the North Atlantic right whale on Appendix I, which identifies it as a migratory species threatened with extinction.[139]  This obligates member nations to strive towards strict protection of  these animals, habitat conservation or restoration, mitigation of  obstacles to migration, and control of other factors that might endanger  them.

It would seem they can have a bad year but the prognosis overall appears fairly good.

The southern white rhino used to number 20,000. In 2013 the population was 9000. but today ???

Tigers are doing better in India over recent years...

As for the condors their only problem is the human custom of using firearms to hunt game. Can the bow and arrow be a retro thing of the future? Play that old record again, how good was that ???!!