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Old August 11th, 2017, 03:35 PM   #1

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I've never looked extremely close!y at this phenomenon, but I did get to meet a scientist from OSU once who worked on cases; he came over with many pictures and files. He didn't think it was predators doing it. Mezrich's book is about it too apparently. An article I ran across:
https://sputniknews.com/us/201708011...ens-abduction/

There is also a book out called Missing411
I've not read it either, though I've seen some skeptical and some positive reviews.

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Old August 11th, 2017, 03:58 PM   #2

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I'd be interested in why he didn't think it was predators.
Awhile a sherif local to claims of cattle mutilation set up a dead cow and left it to nature for observation. I think at the time it was claims of Satanic ritual instead of alien abduction.
The decay process and feeding by scavengers and actions by maggots left the corpse in the same condition as a supposed alien or Satanic mutilation.
It might be surprising a farmer wouldn't recognize the marks, but from my own experience on my grandfather's farm you don't see accidental death or predation as often as you'd think, or leave a corpse unattended for very long.
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I'd be interested in why he didn't think it was predators.
Awhile a sherif local to claims of cattle mutilation set up a dead cow and left it to nature for observation. I think at the time it was claims of Satanic ritual instead of alien abduction.
The decay process and feeding by scavengers and actions by maggots left the corpse in the same condition as a supposed alien or Satanic mutilation.
It might be surprising a farmer wouldn't recognize the marks, but from my own experience on my grandfather's farm you don't see accidental death or predation as often as you'd think, or leave a corpse unattended for very long.
Yeah that's what I think is likely too. Though animals seem to be moved or dropped apparently in some cases. Apparent lack of struggle, I think predators can make clean looking wounds by pulling and tearing, but apparently some incisions are very neat. No person or group appears to have ever been caught.
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This from Wikipedia :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation

The earliest known documented outbreak of unexplained livestock deaths occurred in early 1606 "...about the city of London and some of the shires adjoining. Whole slaughters of sheep have been made, in some places to number 100, in others less, where nothing is taken from the sheep but their tallow and some inward parts, the whole carcasses, and fleece remaining still behind. Of this sundry conjectures, but most agree that it tendeth towards some fireworks." The outbreak was noted in the official records of the Court of James I of England.[4] Charles Fort collected many accounts of cattle mutilations that occurred in England in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. John Keel mentioned investigating animal mutilation cases in 1966 (while with Ivan T. Sanderson) that were being reported in the Upper Ohio River Valley, around Gallipolis, OH.[5] The phenomenon remained largely unknown outside cattle-raising communities until 1967, when the Pueblo Chieftain in Pueblo, Colorado published a story about a horse named Lady near Alamosa, Colorado that was mysteriously killed and mutilated. The story was republished by the wider press and distributed nationwide; this case was the first to feature speculation that extraterrestrial beings and unidentified flying objects were associated with mutilation.[6]

The Snippy (Lady) mutilation Edit
On September 9, 1967, Agnes King and her son Harry found the dead body of their three-year-old horse, Lady. Lady's head and neck had been skinned and defleshed, and the body displayed cuts that, to King, looked very precise. No blood was at the scene, according to Harry, and a strong medicinal odor was in the air. A subsequent investigation concluded there were "No unearthly causes" of the death.[citation needed] Early press coverage of the case misnamed Lady as Snippy. Snippy was Lady's sire and belonged to Nellie's husband, Berle Lewis.[4]


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Democratic senator Floyd K. Haskell contacted the FBI asking for help in 1975 due to public concern regarding the issue. He claimed there had been 130 mutilations in Colorado alone, and further reports across nine states.[7] A 1979 FBI report indicated that, according to investigations by the New Mexico State Police, there had been an estimated 8,000 mutilations in Colorado, causing approximately $1,000,000 damage.[8]

In 1993, documented photographic evidence of a 1988 mutilation surfaced that involved a human being near Guarapiranga, Brazil. An autopsy report concluded the procedure occurred while the victim was still alive, and the associated pain resulted in cardiac arrest. The victim's identity was kept private. An independent investigation later concluded that he died from natural causes.[9]

In May 2001, 200 goats were mutilated in Panggang District of Gunung Kidul Regency, Yogyakarta, Indonesia.[10]

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Yipers!

According to Dr. Howard Burgess, nearly 90 percent of mutilated cattle are between four and five years old.[14]

Some mutilations are said to occur in very brief periods. A 2002 NIDS report[15] relates a 1997 case from Utah. Two ranchers tagged a specific calf, then continued tagging other animals in the same pasture. The ranchers were, at the most, about 300 yards from the calf. Less than an hour later, the first calf was discovered completely eviscerated—most muscle and all internal organs were missing. There was no blood, entrails, or apparent disturbance at the scene. Independent analysts both uncovered marks on the calf's remains consistent with two different types of tools: a large, machete-type blade, and smaller, more delicate scissors.

The absence of tracks or footprints around the site of the mutilated carcass is often considered a hallmark of cattle mutilation[citation needed]. However, in some cases, strange marks or imprints near the site have been found. In the famous "Snippy" case, there was an absolute absence of tracks in a 100 ft radius of the carcass (even the horse's own tracks disappeared within 100 ft of the body.) But within this radius several small holes were found seemingly "punched" in the ground and two bushes were absolutely flattened.[16] In Rio Arriba County, New Mexico, June 1976, a "trail of suction cup-like impressions" was found leading from a mutilated three-year-old cow. The indentations were in a tripod form, 4 inches in diameter, 28 inches apart, and disappeared 500 feet from the dead cow. Similar incidents were reported in the area in 1978.[17][18]
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The simplest explanation is the easiest - methane. Cows and other herbivores produce methane - sometimes rarely instead of belching or venting it out of the back-entrance, a cow could in theory vent elsewhere outside the walls of the stomach or in rare cases a cow can explode.
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The simplest explanation is the easiest - methane. Cows and other herbivores produce methane - sometimes rarely instead of belching or venting it out of the back-entrance, a cow could in theory vent elsewhere outside the walls of the stomach or in rare cases a cow can explode.
That's an interesting idea! Makes some sense with and incisions, but what about missing organs, blood. I had never heard of cows exploding, but certainly sounds plausible.

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Sounds like a lot of ETs are coming here to get fleshy parts for their Cherry2000s Damn them is there no space law! Where is the Federation when one needs it
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Sounds like a lot of ETs are coming here to get fleshy parts for their Cherry2000s Damn them is there no space law! Where is the Federation when one needs it
totally.
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farmers have secret bovine dissection tools. they just do it to mess non-agriculturally inclined people up.
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