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View Poll Results: % that Man is influencing Climate Change?
None 13 10.32%
1% or less 12 9.52%
2-5% 14 11.11%
5-10% 10 7.94%
10-20% 13 10.32%
20-30% 6 4.76%
30-40% 6 4.76%
50-60% 8 6.35%
60-70% 5 3.97%
70-80% 10 7.94%
80-90% 11 8.73%
90-100% 18 14.29%
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Old October 31st, 2011, 03:35 PM   #81
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"But really climate change, if it is happening,..."
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perhaps you should read about a subject before commenting about it. Even the conspiracy enthusiasts admit that there is global warming ( it cannot be denied by a rational person) , they only make the ridiculous claim that humans have not contributed to it.
Please follow your own advice and read the whole piece before commenting. I think the final paragraph puts it in perspective.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 04:05 PM   #82
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During the Cretacious, when humans were supposed to be nonexistant, the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was triple or better what we have today.Man didn't do it then and humans are responsible for very little of it today. The dinosaurs farted more carbon dioxide and methane than is being produced today in factories. That is a fact. That is not a joke.
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What is your point? That has nothing to do with the global warming debate. Your point is like saying that when earth was being formed, and volcanoes were blasting everywhere, the earth was way hotter then it is now. So what?
OK , so billions of years ago, there was more CO2 in the atmosphere. So what?
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Old October 31st, 2011, 05:54 PM   #84

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Please follow your own advice and read the whole piece before commenting. I think the final paragraph puts it in perspective.
Don't hold your breath. It's easier to keep repeating the outdated claims and hyperbole from several years past, then study, and acknowledge the new findings which refute the old claims.




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Clearly, warming is not keeping pace with co2, hence the AGW theory is failing.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:27 PM   #85

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hence the AGW theory is failing.
chart says a lot but why is the ice going away -- there has to be something else at work here --
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Old October 31st, 2011, 06:33 PM   #86
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The Greenland ice sheet can experience extreme melting even when temperatures don't hit record highs,

Extreme melting on greenland ice sheet, team reports; Glacial melt cycle could become self-amplifying

so whats causing it but under ground activity
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Old October 31st, 2011, 07:57 PM   #87
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People generally fail to take into account such things as habitat destruction, agricultural pollution, desertification, electromagnetic spectrum interference, etc. and their effects upon the environment and climate change in these sort of debates.

Hell, even the destruction of genetic variability by beef producers has some impact upon the system, it is all more connected than people ever seem to perceive.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 08:05 PM   #88

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that;s fine for greenland -- but the ice sheets in antarctica are also going away fast
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My apologies davu. unclefred's comment after your quote made me think that he was in agreement with you and therefore you were saying that the world's scientists are saying that yes global temperature is rising but humans have not contributed to it. *
Recent data radically confirms that global warming is occurring and humans have contributed to it. As a matter of fact earlier findings by the, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, are now known to be wrong. But not for the reason the conspiracy enthusiasts think. They are wrong because they radically underestimated the impact humans have had on global warming and extent of the impact.
* I sincerely apologize. You would never say such an absurd and obvious lie. If you knew the intensity of my life right now, you would understand why I react immediately and with force.
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Scientists don`nt really know what is causing the melting today, just like they still don`nt know what cause the last ice age to melt. Its everyone`s guess.
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