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Old February 19th, 2012, 12:49 AM   #1
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Stonehenge; An ancient auditorium?


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Old February 19th, 2012, 01:20 AM   #2

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It's not a theory so out of context.

Music vibrations have been linked to magics [the distance between magics and "religion" was quite null in prehistory] during the Celtic history from the age of the druids.

Before of the druids we've got legends and tales. I would remember that the traditional tales [fairy tales, meaning tales where fairies are involved] indicate an important role for sound. The conceptualization of Sidhe is really particular, but of course we haven't got historical evidences that it is so ancient.

I would suggest to confront the concept of Tuata Na Sidhe [the people of the Sidhe].

But obviously enough I'm in the world of tradition, not of history here. Clear.
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The problem with archaeoacoustics being a relatively new field of study is that there is not a large enough body of research to give us a consensus view of how it works.
As things stand it is still too easy for people to come along and say 'look, my research reveals numbers which I have developed into patterns, I can match these patterns to other patterns based on ancient structures. This proves my theory because the numbers add up!'
I find this approach unsatisfactory but I suppose we will all have to put up with it until something better comes along. I'm not knocking this guy or his work but we seem to hear theories like this for every ancient site, with Stonehenge being the daddy of them all!

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 12:40 PM   #4
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Quick, someone call Clive Ruggles (emeritus Professor of Archaeoastronomy at the University of Leicester, UK)... he is the only man I know of who can resolve this debate.
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Maya Acoustics:
http://www.nature.com/news/2004/0412...s041213-5.html




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The problem with archaeoacoustics being a relatively new field of study is that there is not a large enough body of research to give us a consensus view of how it works.
As things stand it is still too easy for people to come along and say 'look, my research reveals numbers which I have developed into patterns, I can match these patterns to other patterns based on ancient structures. This proves my theory because the numbers add up!'
I find this approach unsatisfactory but I suppose we will all have to put up with it until something better comes along. I'm not knocking this guy or his work but we seem to hear theories like this for every ancient site, with Stonehenge being the daddy of them all!

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Old November 5th, 2017, 09:58 AM   #6

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Its possible that music and chanting were important aspects of whatever went on at Stonehenge, but the article says that the scientist "rigged two flutes to an air pump so they played the same note continuously".

Would human lungs be able to sustain the notes long enough, strong enough, or steady enough (plus stay in the same position and play in a constant direction) to produce the same sound wave interference?

Unless he can prove that air pumps were used in Neolithic times, or produce the same results with human musicians, then his theory looks like coincidence.

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The conceptualization of Sidhe is really particular, but of course we haven't got historical evidences that it is so ancient.
That is because it almost certainly isn`t. The Gaelic `sidhe` and the Welsh `sidi` are probably the same entity. In both cases they are associated with the `otherworld` but I suspect that it may originally have been a real place, from where a race of foreigners originated, in Ireland at least. Taliesin described how it had a fountain above it. In `Preiddeu Annwn`, even though it is mentioned in the first paragraph, it appears to be the final destination of what may have been a long and very real sea journey.

As for Stonehenge, if you put a roof on it, you`d have yourself a very elaborate roundhouse.
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Sound of Quetzal:


Sound of hand-clap reflecting off the steps of Temple of Kukulcan, (Chichen Itza)

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About 1/4 in there is 2 sound files, one pyramid, one quetzal

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I once thought the thing had a bronze or copper domed roof. Later scrapped for metal.

Maybe it predated the Oracle in Greece.


There is mention somewhere of buildings that were acoustic amplifiers, facing the oceans and the seas around the UK.

I'll find it soon, in the meantime, it's probably where the legends of the Banshee comes from.


These mounds might be them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee

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A banshee (/ˈbnʃiː/ BAN-shee; Modern Irish bean s, from Old Irish: ban sde, pronounced [bʲan ˈʃiːʲe], "woman of the fairy mound" or "fairy woman") is a female spirit in Irish mythology who heralds the death of a family member, usually by wailing, shrieking, or keening. Her name is connected to the mythologically-important tumuli or "mounds" that dot the Irish countryside, which are known as sde (singular sd) in Old Irish.[1]

Anywho. The Newgrange and other settlements, to my memory were in part due to Egyptian immigrants. Which predates many "spiritual" structures during the classical period in the Mediterranean.


Besides stonehenge, there are other "circular" ceremonial mounds and structures that vaguely resemble stonehenge in and around Ireland, and they've found human remains at the center, indicating that the "Winter Solstice" event may have been a cannibalistic ritual of sorts.

I hate to speculate outside of the speculation forum, but perhaps the monothiest takeover of the polythiests of druidic ages, is traditionalist in the catholic churches when we eat the body and drink the blood of christ during various ceremonies. That's a severe longshot though.


I do know that the stonehenge argument for calendar system purposes is basically too far flung as the post holes really don't line up with anything in particular in the sky, it is only the major solstice events which it is aware of.


I do think, and I will post when I find, that there are ancient ditches which surround the stonehenge structure, so whatever they were doing in there, banshee acoustics or not, they were keeping out the animals, and typically, animals are only driven to food. So there was most certainly some type of odour happening inside the place.


Yeah, the surrounding ditch is mentioned in the wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge

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The surrounding circular earth bank and ditch, which constitute the earliest phase of the monument, have been ...

Anywho, since there is some good stuff there, I might as well speculate. I wonder what it meant to be "BORN" on the winter solstice, during perhaps a crucifixion? Hmmmnnnn... That's enough brain in a jar thoughts for me today. 8)

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