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Old October 9th, 2017, 11:19 PM   #1241

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You don't need a single child policy. The replacement rate is around 2.3, so even a two-child policy will reduce the population. In most countries the fertility rate is already below 2.3, but Africa and India more than make up for the shortfall.
India is doing well on the population control front. Most middle class couples are limiting their children to two. The middle class practicing this is mostly Hindu.The Muslims of India are not bothered about planning their families And it is their population that is booming.
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Old October 10th, 2017, 02:57 AM   #1242

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Warmest ever September, and 9th warmest month overall, according to UAH satellite records maintained by AGW sceptics Roiy Spencer and John Christie .....

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Not only was it the warmest September on record, it was also the warmest month (compared to seasonal norms) in the 38 year satellite temperature record that wasn’t associated with an “officially recognized” El Niño Pacific Ocean warming event. Of the 20 warmest monthly global average temperatures in the satellite record, onlySeptember 2017 was not during an El Niño. Compared to seasonal norms, the global average temperature in September made it the ninth warmest month in the satellite record
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It is raining heavily since the noon or so today the 10th October 2017 and all over the area near Mumbai ( aka Bombay ). Amazing weather. The rain is in force as if it is the 10th June rather than 10th October. Rice crops nearby in Thane District of the state of Maharashtra, which were near harvesting might now be destroyed. Awful change in the season !
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Old October 12th, 2017, 06:13 AM   #1244

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India is doing well on the population control front. Most middle class couples are limiting their children to two. The middle class practicing this is mostly Hindu.The Muslims of India are not bothered about planning their families And it is their population that is booming.
but then one can't really say India is doing well on population growth. If EVERYONE (not just middle class Hindu) were 2 or LESS, it might be doing so. Given that only some are doing so, it isn't. 2 or so is replacement level. 1 or none is reduction. And this presumes that there is no immigration from outside. The US would have a zero or negative population growth (good for the climate) as would much of Europe if there were no immigration. The problem is that zero or negative population growth scares many politicians. They fear their power base will erode and they fear cheap workers will be harder to find. Many economies are based on finding ever more consumers to buy things.

however, if you have a majority of supporters of 1 million and if you have a majority of supporters of 100,000, the result is the same. many jobs currently done by "unskilled workers' are being replaced by robots (who may cost initially, but don't go on strike, quit or ask for raises --and can be recycled when obsolete), and as computers have shown -- you can have "more purchases" with the same people if you have new products.
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https://www.thegwpf.com/wake-up-clim...ee-production/ Date: 07/10/17 Press Trust of India
Coffee output in India, Asia’s third-largest producer and exporter, is projected to be a record 3.50 lakh tonnes in the 2017-18 marketing year started this month on higher acreage, according to the Coffee Board.

and yet in 2012, it was asserted that climate change would decimate the coffee industry: Click the image to open in full size.
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Is Arabica nearly eradica? Arabica coffee beans could be extinct in the wild by 2080 because of climate change, according to a new study by researchers at London’s Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
obviously the prediction and the 2012 "new study" were wrong. it didn't become extinct. Click the image to open in full size.

The final output stood lower by 10.34 per cent at 3.12 lakh tonnes in 2016-17 marketing year from 3.48 lakh tonnes in the previous year.

Releasing the first crop estimate, the Coffee Board said the post blossom crop forecast for 2017-18 is placed at 3.50 lakh tonnes, comprising 1.03 lakh tonnes of Arabica and 2.47 lakh tonnes of Robusta varieties. “It is going to be yet another record crop. This is an overall increase of 38,400 tonnes (12.31 per cent) over the final estimate of previous 2016-17 year,” the Board said.

Higher output is mainly attributed to the additional bearing area of about 13,500 hectare in traditional growing areas of Karnataka, Kerala and Tamil Nadu
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and while the hiatus on hurricanes in the Atlantic is over, in the Pacific? https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...ons-on-record/ All of the attention on hurricanes this summer has been in the Atlantic. It may come as a surprise to some then that global cyclone activity has been pretty much normal so far this year:
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In fact, the North Atlantic is the only region where ACE is above average, with the Western Pacific and Southern Hemisphere being particularly low.
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the fact is that nature varies. There's no evidence of any significant change since the 1970s. we are better at tracking storms, better at measuring them. They may do more damage due to more people being in their path (a function of parking cities on coasts and population growth), but the "sometimes you get several, sometimes you don't" pattern has not changed, despite the "climate change" predictions.
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Old October 12th, 2017, 06:29 AM   #1247

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Well, screw the other animals, oceans, skies, and my great grandchildren already! My coffee?? Now something must be done.
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https://www.thegwpf.com/on-eve-of-to...energy-traget/ Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg has given the strongest indication yet the Federal Government would not adopt the policy, saying a freefall in the cost of renewables meant there was no point in more subsidies.

Instead the Government is considering another kind of target, which would mandate a certain amount of dispatchable generation – power that can be dispatched on request – within the grid. It is understood the Government will not proceed with a target as recommended by Dr Finkel, which would have required a certain amount of power come from clean energy and likely included subsidies for renewables through the issue of certificates.
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you are only as accurate as your instruments:
Now It?s ?Global Stilling? ?Researchers Amazed: Global Wind Speeds Have SLOWED DOWN Since 1960s!
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According to the researchers, worldwide wind speeds have slowed down by about half a kilometer per hour since the 1960s.

The phenomenon is known as “stilling”, and scientists are not sure why it is happening. They speculate that it may have something to do with urbanization, climate change and cumulus clouds. But then the report admits: “Or it could be due to ageing wind speed instruments producing inaccurate results.
lower speeds would indicate lower storm generation but also less wind for wind turbines. -- despite acknowledging the problem might be the instruments, the article asserts that More money needs to be spent to study the slower speed -- because it "must" be bad.

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https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/...-winds_en.html and

Klima - Wind wird langsamer (in german)


The fact is that we have climate change. We have ALWAYS had climate change. The climate isn't the same as it was 100 million years ago, or 65, or 10 million years ago. it isn't the same as it was 11,700 years ago (end of ice age). The assertion that "climate change" now is human caused and inevitably bad is just that. an assertion. The assertion that any alteration in the climate must be bad is just that. it's really a combination of arrogance and self loathing. we are so powerful we can alter the climate in significant ways and we are so bad that whatever alterations we do are bad ones. And so the led must make changes while the leaders jet around (all that carbon imprint is for the better good, apparently) and live their lives without sacrifice.

if we are really impacting the planet negatively in a significant way, the easiest, fastest solution would be population reduction globally (not in this country or that, and not in this demographic or that. GLOBALLY). And those advocating it ought to be leading by example.
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you are only as accurate as your instruments:
http://notrickszone.com/2017/10/07/n....gYRR7vSu.dpbs
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According to the researchers, worldwide wind speeds have slowed down by about half a kilometer per hour since the 1960s.

The phenomenon is known as “stilling”, and scientists are not sure why it is happening. They speculate that it may have something to do with urbanization, climate change and cumulus clouds. But then the report admits: “Or it could be due to ageing wind speed instruments producing inaccurate results.
lower speeds would indicate lower storm generation but also less wind for wind turbines. -- despite acknowledging the problem might be the instruments, the article asserts that More money needs to be spent to study the slower speed -- because it "must" be bad.

see also
https://horizon-magazine.eu/article/...-winds_en.html and

Klima - Wind wird langsamer (in german)


The fact is that we have climate change. We have ALWAYS had climate change. The climate isn't the same as it was 100 million years ago, or 65, or 10 million years ago. it isn't the same as it was 11,700 years ago (end of ice age). The assertion that "climate change" now is human caused and inevitably bad is just that. an assertion. The assertion that any alteration in the climate must be bad is just that. it's really a combination of arrogance and self loathing. we are so powerful we can alter the climate in significant ways and we are so bad that whatever alterations we do are bad ones. And so the led must make changes while the leaders jet around (all that carbon imprint is for the better good, apparently) and live their lives without sacrifice.

if we are really impacting the planet negatively in a significant way, the easiest, fastest solution would be population reduction globally (not in this country or that, and not in this demographic or that. GLOBALLY). And those advocating it ought to be leading by example.
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