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Old November 24th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #1
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Hello from the wet, mossy northwest corner of the USA. I found my way here while googling for details about crossbows. I was impressed with the intelligent discussions, staying on topic and (as far as I could tell) freedom from flaming. I'm fascinated with the Elizabethan period, and hope to find others who feel the same way (and know more). This should be fun! - Pablo
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Old November 24th, 2007, 11:14 PM   #2

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Old November 24th, 2007, 11:58 PM   #3

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G'day and welcome Pablo!!

You'll find a few "Elizabethans" here!
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Old November 25th, 2007, 05:18 AM   #4

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Old November 25th, 2007, 12:57 PM   #5

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Hi Pablo and weclome. You don't have to ask where my interests lay!
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Old November 25th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #6
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Thanks for all of your replies! Now I'm wondering what to do next. Is the format here strictly question-and-answer, or is a group project of some sort underway? I've been involved in a collaborative writing website, and that can be a lot of fun.

Oh, first question. What, exactly, is a codpiece? In Singman's "Daily Life in Elizabethan England" I read "A codpiece was a padded covering for the crotch, originally introduced for the sake of propriety. It also served the function of a modern trouserfly; it could be unbottoned or untied to allow the wearer to urinate. ... Later in the reign ... codpieces continued to be worn on the outside of trunkhose. They were sometimes quite elaborate, and often in a shape that strikes the modern eye is downright obscene. Fashionable gentlemen occasionally had them made as pockets in which they could store candy and other knick-knacks." Well, you can see why I'm curious. If you could flaunt your sexuality, and store candy in them too, it's a wonder that they aren't in fashion now. Still, I'm having trouble working out what they looked like and how they worked.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 05:02 AM   #7

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Strange !
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Old November 26th, 2007, 12:56 PM   #8

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Thanks for all of your replies! Now I'm wondering what to do next. Is the format here strictly question-and-answer, or is a group project of some sort underway? I've been involved in a collaborative writing website, and that can be a lot of fun.

Oh, first question. What, exactly, is a codpiece? In Singman's "Daily Life in Elizabethan England" I read "A codpiece was a padded covering for the crotch, originally introduced for the sake of propriety. It also served the function of a modern trouserfly; it could be unbottoned or untied to allow the wearer to urinate. ... Later in the reign ... codpieces continued to be worn on the outside of trunkhose. They were sometimes quite elaborate, and often in a shape that strikes the modern eye is downright obscene. Fashionable gentlemen occasionally had them made as pockets in which they could store candy and other knick-knacks." Well, you can see why I'm curious. If you could flaunt your sexuality, and store candy in them too, it's a wonder that they aren't in fashion now. Still, I'm having trouble working out what they looked like and how they worked.
You can ask your questions on a new post or answer questions or put your theories on some one elses thread. You will soon get to know the locals!

As far as your codpiece questions as to why they are not in fashion now, I think the buttoned trouser fly then the zip overtook them. Don't men still flaunt their sexuality? Seems to me they are pretty quick at getting the old fly undone when they want to Funny how men are still obsessed with size after all this time
There are plenty of pictures of tudor men with these on. Have a look at any painting of HenryV111 with these cod pieces on display.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 07:42 PM   #9
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Yes, I see that Henry VIII has quite an aggressive codpiece. I think this is more about attitude than size.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 05:11 PM   #10

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Yes, I see that Henry VIII has quite an aggressive codpiece. I think this is more about attitude than size.
Most likely both I'd say
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