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Old February 15th, 2016, 08:26 PM   #101
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Feminists actively try to inhibit freedom of speech and they demand that women aren't treated any different than men. All whilst demanding extra privileges than men and for society to tip toe around them, watching anything they say, in case the feminists 'feelings' are hurt. If anyone is making sure women are being treated in a fragile and temperamental Victorian fashion - it's feminists.

I asked two questions earlier. What will finalise equality? What hurdles need to be over-come to end the need for feminists? I asked because feminism won't end as long as people are willing to take it seriously. There are no hurdles known to end feminism because they consistently create new hurdles. A lot of people make a lot of money from this ideology, they have social standing, their egos alone wouldn't allow them to back down. Too much is at stake to give up so they push, push further and harder and create a false and utterly devastating reality - just to satisfy themselves. If they can force reality to even remotely affirm their incoherent and insane ideas, then they can feed from that and justify themselves.

Feminists focus on 'feelings' and yet demand that women are just as tough as men... OK... do men whine about 'feelings' and 'safe spaces'?

Feminism as an ideology is void of anything worthy of our attention. They should be considered as the looney, selfish damaged witches that they are and absolutely not be allowed to take positions of influence , or bully their way through university campuses with their hate.

Feminists are bigots, I thought we shouldn't tolerate bigots?

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Also their hypocrisy over Islam shines through. They protect and even defend and justify Muslim rapists in order to secure their stance against 'racism' and 'Islamophobia'. They even prevented an Iranian ex Muslim woman from speaking at a university accusing her of 'provoking hatred'. They defend and stroke Islam (an overtly misogynist and oppressive religion towards women) whilst screeching at the average Western male over how oppressed she is by the average Western male 'oppressor'. She can call all white men rapists, all men in general rapists, she can freely protest and promote her prejudice against an entire gender - but don't you dare criticise Islam or that Muslim rapist profiling a little white girl for his next victim - you racist!

Ultimately feminists do not care about women, girls or victims. Their concern towards women and girls comes with conditions - the conditions have to affirm their ideology, other wise they blanket ignore the victim or even overtly defend the oppressor if needs must.

Also feminists ultimately hate males and in particular white Western males, especially straight men. They would see all white men suffer if they could, they revel in male suffering.

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Old February 15th, 2016, 09:08 PM   #103

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There aren't that many men who primarily relied on their wives income while married.
How does that make it "equal"? That is the question. A man works his butt off, buys a home, and marries his girlfriend. She moves in, eventually their marriage breaks down, she divorces him because she is "unhappy", and gets the house and the kids. How does that leverage anything out?

This is only one of many typical scenarios. Excuses are used, like the "I am adjusted to a certain lifestyle" excuse which compels the courts to give the woman permission to completely fleece and destroy this man financially (and often emotionally when he loses his children). Government meddling in personal relationships has done nothing more than breakup the traditional American home. It doesn't seem like much has been fixed but instead there have only been trade offs resulting in a system that remains unequal despite the rhetoric of "equality". It's a shame considering the statistics about children who grow up in single mother households...more likely to go to prison, commit crimes, flunk out of school, develop addictions, and the list goes on. But hey, on the bright side, at least there's a feminist somewhere out there who as a result feels a little less "oppressed".
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I didn't realise how severe this alimony was in the USA until I read about Robin Williams' suicide. Men can get fleeced in the UK too but I think males in the USA have it much worse as far as alimony goes. Some cases are ridiculous, like men having to pay the same monthly 'fees' to his ex even after losing his job etc. It's one thing to help pay for one's children but it's something else to just try and take what you can, just because you can.

I think too, if people cannot come to an adult arrangement and be amicable (especially with kids involved) but rather mud sling one another in courts of law, over money. This speaks volumes about the state of society and how broken our attitudes are towards romantic relationships and of course, family life.
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Feminists actively try to inhibit freedom of speech and they demand that women aren't treated any different than men. All whilst demanding extra privileges than men and for society to tip toe around them, watching anything they say, in case the feminists 'feelings' are hurt. If anyone is making sure women are being treated in a fragile and temperamental Victorian fashion - it's feminists.

I asked two questions earlier. What will finalise equality? What hurdles need to be over-come to end the need for feminists? I asked because feminism won't end as long as people are willing to take it seriously. There are no hurdles known to end feminism because they consistently create new hurdles. A lot of people make a lot of money from this ideology, they have social standing, their egos alone wouldn't allow them to back down. Too much is at stake to give up so they push, push further and harder and create a false and utterly devastating reality - just to satisfy themselves. If they can force reality to even remotely affirm their incoherent and insane ideas, then they can feed from that and justify themselves.

Feminists focus on 'feelings' and yet demand that women are just as tough as men... OK... do men whine about 'feelings' and 'safe spaces'?

Feminism as an ideology is void of anything worthy of our attention. They should be considered as the looney, selfish damaged witches that they are and absolutely not be allowed to take positions of influence , or bully their way through university campuses with their hate.

Feminists are bigots, I thought we shouldn't tolerate bigots?
Very true. But as long as the ideology is promoted on college campuses by people with a PhD next to their name, feminism will always have a faithful band of devotees. Here we are in 2016 and feminists are still talking about the so-called wage gap, despite overwhelming evidence that suggests that there is no wage gap when comparing men and women with the same education, profession, work hours, and so forth.
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Very true. But as long as the ideology is promoted on college campuses by people with a PhD next to their name, feminism will always have a faithful band of devotees. Here we are in 2016 and feminists are still talking about the so-called wage gap, despite overwhelming evidence that suggests that there is no wage gap when comparing men and women with the same education, profession, work hours, and so forth.
So true, Mike. How often do you hear feminists openly spew nonsense and hatred and get away with it because of a few letters next to her name.. That's why people need to counter their nonsensical ramblings. It's also why feminists love censorship - so nobody can counter their vile and insane ideology.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 09:24 PM   #107

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I didn't realise how severe this alimony was in the USA until I read about Robin Williams' suicide. Men can get fleeced in the UK too but I think males in the USA have it much worse as far as alimony goes. Some cases are ridiculous, like men having to pay the same monthly 'fees' to his ex even after losing his job etc. It's one thing to help pay for one's children but it's something else to just try and take what you can, just because you can.

I think too, if people cannot come to an adult arrangement and be amicable (especially with kids involved) but rather mud sling one another in courts of law, over money. This speaks volumes about the state of society and how broken our attitudes are towards romantic relationships in family life.
Interesting you mention Robin Williams. He talked about how deeply unhappy he was due to his ex-wives dragging him through the court system and picking his pockets for something like $30 million. No one cared until he was pushed over the edge. I don't know if that is the sole source of his unhappiness, but it seems to have contributed.
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Interesting you mention Robin Williams. He talked about how deeply unhappy he was due to his ex-wives dragging him through the court system and picking his pockets for something like $30 million. No one cared until he was pushed over the edge. I don't know if that is the sole source of his unhappiness, but it seems to have contributed.
Yes I can't imagine that kind of pressure not contributing to his mental and emotional state, regardless of the other factors in his life.
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No, it's not. Some anti-feminists and "feminazis", as someone else mentioned, would have you believe it is, but it is not. As far as I know, the dictionary hasn't changed it's definition of feminism. It is still defined as "the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes". I will not deny some self-proclaimed feminists have a warped understanding of feminism and equality - but that doesn't mean they define what true feminism really is.

It's best not to judge an entire group of people based on what a few of them have said or done or believe in.... because isn't that the definition of racism, sexism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc?
National Organization for Women is the largest feminist organization in the US. It's voice of mainstream feminism, not the few self-proclaimed feminists.

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How does that make it "equal"? That is the question. A man works his butt off, buys a home, and marries his girlfriend. She moves in, eventually their marriage breaks down, she divorces him because she is "unhappy", and gets the house and the kids. How does that leverage anything out?

This is only one of many typical scenarios. Excuses are used, like the "I am adjusted to a certain lifestyle" excuse which compels the courts to give the woman permission to completely fleece and destroy this man financially (and often emotionally when he loses his children). Government meddling in personal relationships has done nothing more than breakup the traditional American home. It doesn't seem like much has been fixed but instead there have only been trade offs resulting in a system that remains unequal despite the rhetoric of "equality". It's a shame considering the statistics about children who grow up in single mother households...more likely to go to prison, commit crimes, flunk out of school, develop addictions, and the list goes on. But hey, on the bright side, at least there's a feminist somewhere out there who as a result feels a little less "oppressed".
What's equal about it is that it happens to women nowadays.
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