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Old February 15th, 2016, 12:16 PM   #51
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Obviously first we need to make distinction between 'genuinely needing help' and 'making unrealistic demands through an aggressive hatred of men'.
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Perhaps 50 years ago, feminism had a purpose. But, like many movements, it has been hijacked primarily by extremists. If you thinks about it, this is not uncommon. Those who a modest and fair agenda had their goals realized: in the workplace and society in general. The movement accomplished what it started. However, those with an extreme agenda will never be satisfied. Today, most young women do not even mention the word, let alone think about it - at least here in the U.S. If anything, they hold opinions partially - if not mostly - antithetical to today's feminists.
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Perhaps 50 years ago, feminism had a purpose. But, like many movements, it has been hijacked primarily by extremists. If you thinks about it, this is not uncommon. Those who a modest and fair agenda had their goals realized: in the workplace and society in general. The movement accomplished what it started. However, those with an extreme agenda will never be satisfied. Today, most young women do not even mention the word, let alone think about it - at least here in the U.S. If anything, they hold opinions partially - if not mostly - antithetical to today's feminists.
Not extremists, a lot of the feminist movement was communist (I mean a LOT) what happened is that it was hijacked (As most of the "left") by the idiot post-modern gibberish. You can't even debate with them, they ******* call me right-winger by having a coherent opinion on anything.

Post-modernism means the death of anything, any movement, any political project, it is cheap idealism, that conceives itself as left and acts with semi-religious conviction.
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It's sad really because feminism has seriously divided men and women, when we actually work well together. They imply that trying to keep a man happy is oppression, abuse or a woman just being a door mat. Yet they expect men to run around us at our every command like a submissive puppy dog.

If I'm happy and my man contributes to my happiness, then I will actively seek to make him happy too. There is nothing wrong with people being nice to one another. I know it's all the rage to make numerous demands to your man whilst giving him sweet FA in return, but that's not my style.

These witches should go and live in Saudi Arabia with their beloved Islam... go see how real oppression feels.

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Not extremists, a lot of the feminist movement was communist (I mean a LOT) what happened is that it was hijacked (As most of the "left") by the idiot post-modern gibberish. You can't even debate with them, they ******* call me right-winger by having a coherent opinion on anything.

Post-modernism means the death of anything, any movement, any political project, it is cheap idealism, that conceives itself as left and acts with semi-religious conviction.
Groupism, through the course of its natural evolution, has to divide and separate. Divide and separate almost always means divide and conquer, as the group believes itself to be oppressed and the only way to solve this is to win (there must be a winner and a loser, after all). So, yes it is an "us against them" mentality.
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Probably because feminism has greatly disrupted the lives of countless women, led to the break up of countless families, yet in the end studies show that women are more unhappy now then they have ever been. The solution to solve this unhappiness? More feminism! Feminism has only benefited a tiny pool of self-centered women at the expense of all other women and the rest of society.
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It was Tony Blair and Gordon Brown who told women to go out to work and to put their little children and babies in nurseries full time. Like in America. The number of nursery places rose sharply under Labour and they keep rising.

It is, imo, bordering on barbaric of govt to be encouraging young mums to place babies in these places full time. Have you ever been inside one? Toddlers listlessly stumbling around in a miserable daze, looked after by very young girls, who are worn out, inexperienced and on minimum wage . Looking after 3 or 4 babies/toddlers each. What makes it worse is that maternity leave ends at 10 months old and this is the exact time that babies experience Separation Anxiety and mothers go back to work. Also the amount of biting and aggression that goes on between toddlers in nursuries, look it up. Young mums are told lies about what these places are really like and research tells us time and time again that they are no good for very young babies/toddlers
Stay at home mums are not valued any more, and if working class they are often labeled as lazy chavs too, and it was Labour who were responsible for that. We should not be encouraging nurseries for children of such a young age. We should be helping stay at home mums and part time working mums more

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That is honestly disgusting. How women are supposed to be materially equal and independent this way?
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That is honestly disgusting. How women are supposed to be materially equal and independent this way?
What way? Who are you replying to?
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Groupism, through the course of its natural evolution, has to divide and separate. Divide and separate almost always means divide and conquer, as the group believes itself to be oppressed and the only way to solve this is to win (there must be a winner and a loser, after all). So, yes it is an "us against them" mentality.
And there always must be a devil, and we all know ideological groups of various kinds who will sacrifice everything, including freedom, just to get the 'devil'.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NUqytjlHNIM[/ame]

What is frightening about modern feminism is the totalitarian ideology which they push. These feminists aren't simply 'man haters' but are actually extremely dangerous to all our freedoms.
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George Orwell would have shot you were you in Spain, but to answer your question, I was replying the post above mine
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