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Old April 18th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #1
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Origin of hate is love


Why would you hate someone or something*?
*to be concise, let's call the one/thing X

Most likely it's because X in some way violates/opposes/contradicts/denigrates/etc. someone or something* you love.
*e.g.,yourself, family, a friend, a celebrity, a historical figure, a fictional character, a culture, a tradition, an ideology, an artwork, a sports team… you name it. To be concise, let's call it Y.

The more you love Y, the more you hate X.

There might be rare cases of psychopaths and sociopaths whose hate doesn't originate from love.
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This is very simplistic view of emotion of hate. There are many type of hatred, some of which originated from love, but not all.


There is a type of hatred which originates from inferiority complex which in turn originated from admiration combined inability to measure up to your object of admiration.



Then there is type of hatred which is purely defensive. It is a more about having guile to put enemy feet first in a wood chipper, and making sure that enemy knows what you would do. This hatred perform a signalling function and a defensive role. Though I am not sure that this could even be called as hatred as even though it has all the indicators of emotions of hate, it is more cognitive than affective ,and nations and individuals usually adopt it being fully aware of what it is. This is very similar to dehumanization.


Then there is dogmatic hatred. In this type of hatred, you do not hate someone because you feel strongly about your object of hate, but because you are supposed to hate based on a dogma. Hatred Muslims have for pigs is exactly this type of hatred. Pigs ,at least in countries where waste disposal is not very efficient, perform very important role in recycling, but in many Muslim countries (like in Egypt a couple of years ago) pigs are killed for no rhyme and reason even though it adversely affect waste disposal system in that country. Hatred Jihadis have for infidels is an example of this.


Then there is casual hatred. In this type of hatred the possessor of hatred may not even be aware that he hate something as it come naturally to him. This type of hatred is taught by process of socialization. Most of the people outside Sintic and Indo-Malay cultural region would be disgusted by though of eating insects and have hatred for the very idea of doing it, but for Sintics and Indo-Malays this is normal. Now there are very few insectophiles in this world so you could not pin down origin of hared towards idea of consuming insects to love for insects. It has its foundation in basic emotion of disgust.



Hatred could also originate from more than one emotion/source. The hatred (one could also say disgust) that rotherham gangs had for white christian/atheist girls was part dogmatic, part casual. It was important for them to hate their target as it is important to dehumanize your target to treat him/her like an object. This is not limited to sexual exploitation cases, but is also visible in genocides and religious wars. In order to kill your enemy without remorse, loot his/her property, and rape women without feeling any remorse, it is important for person who is doing it to rationalize his deeds by dehumanizing his target. Scientific racism (and racial supremacism) also have its origin in need to dehumanize.Racism in its crude form ie xenophobia was present throughout history, but it became popular and systematic bordering to a pseudo-science among people of European extraction ,in late medieval/early modern period, as they needed it as a dehumanizing tool for colonialism.



These are types which came to my mind ,at this moment, whom I could not attribute to love. This is not an exhaustive list.

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Are you denying:
racists/xenophobes love their own race/identity?
fundamentalists/wingnuts love their own religion/ideology?
narcissistic sociopaths love themselves?
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Are you denying:
racists/xenophobes love their own race/identity?
fundamentalists/wingnuts love their own religion/ideology?
narcissistic sociopaths love themselves?
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It's difficult to even define what love is.
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It's difficult to even define what love is.
What about "hate"?
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Jealously causes hate. Irrational hate is caused from within, deep insecurities which leads to jealously, then turns to hate. One of the seven deadly sins.
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What about "hate"?
Hate is much more easier to define and identify than love. I agree with Abhishek that people can hate with no connection to love whatsoever.

Although I must admit, the word 'hate' is being used currently to describe all kinds of things unrelated to it, and this is widely accepted.
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If you love someone/something (s/s), you treasure your relationship/experience with s/s and want to continue or repeat the relationship/experience.
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What is love? The strongest positive feeling towards someone or something.
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If you love someone/something (s/s), you treasure your relationship/experience with s/s and want to continue or repeat the relationship/experience.
I don't see the connection to hate necessarily.
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