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Old January 2nd, 2017, 03:24 PM   #31
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No sugar-coating that reply.
If any non American had mentioned that I suspect it would have gotten a pretty angry rebuttal.




Hey I hope I don't resemble that remark.
As someone who's nearest foreign state is the Evergreen state, I have seen both sides of what you describe.

Read the post quoted above yours, and you'll understand why some Canadians have a somewhat skeptical view of some Americans.

I think part of it is that (IIRC) the US has one of the lowest rates of foreign travel of any 1st world country, so it seems that many Americans have little understanding of other countries, cultures, languages or history.

(Not that there aren't ignorant Canadians, just like everyone else)
Well, I guess. The 2nd most visited destination in the world is the US (after France) which might explain why so many Americans vacation in their own country. Even so, Americans logged more than 66 million foreign trips according to Wikipedia which isn't so far from the total number of international arrivals in the US. It's a generalization, of course, but in general, Americans aren't quite the yahoos that people think they are, although Yahoos can be found everywhere in the world.

What I noticed about Canadians is that some of them spend a lot of time and effort in explaining how different they are from us, meaning, of course, better, which, in some ways, they may well be. There's a great deal to love about Canada except that I believe there's a good reason why most of its population live near the US border: the winters are brutal. One observation I have about our neighbors to the north - at least the Anglo ones - is that one would be extremely hard-pressed to pick out a Canadian in a line-up, LOL. I lived 5 years in Western Canada which put me and my family near to Banff, Jasper and Yoho Valley and some sensational national parks. The "oil culture" of Alberta reminds me of a similar to one in Texas. I find the notion of a Cowbuy culture in lower Alberta a bit humorous, however, but it is colorful, to be sure.

The most unique thing about Canada of course is Quebec which is a different world from the rest of Canada. Instead of touting this, a lot of Canadians seem annoyed and irritated by it and very few Anglo-Canadians bother to learn the language with any proficiency. Withal, I find the people there very warm and welcoming and revel in the beauty of Montreal and Quebec City.

I spent a couple of years in North Africa where there were quite a few French-Canadians working as nurses, physical therapists and teachers. There were quite a few French there too as one might expect, but the French-Canadians gravitated more towards us because in some ways they just preferred their North American cousins and I am in touch with most of them today. To say they felt little closeness to their Anglo compatriots would not be an exaggeration.

As for American yahoos, I speak a fair bit of Spanish, a good bit of French, passable Dutch and enough German to get around, so things are not always what they seem. Being American makes me acutely aware of the flaws in my own culture and I readily admit them, but I am constantly surprised when I meet new friends and neighbors how many have traveled to distant places.

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Old January 2nd, 2017, 03:26 PM   #32

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Nope.
Never met or experienced meeting anyone like that.

I like our regional accents from Glaswegian to Scouse to Brummy to West Country. I don't find us to be arrogant or smug. Less so actually than any of our neighbours. But then my friends and contacts are nearly all working class or lower middle class. Maybe posh guys are different. But from what I've seen ever country in the world has smug arrogant people and you will find them everywhere unless you have perfected the art of only seeing what you want to.

There are embarrassing aspects of our culture, but on the whole I have more problems with the Japanese than the British. I do like the Japanese but on the whole they are more annoying than the British and their TV/pop music sucks.

I probably wouldn't know what to say to anyone, of any nationality, who hated their own country so much other than to tell them to emigrate and change nationality.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 05:09 PM   #33

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I am British yet I find most British people completely insufferable. Arrogant, sarcastic, sneering, self-serving, believe in nothing, often aggressive and very often foul mouthed too. I even find most British regional accents to be very irritating and grating.

I find you can tell a Brit easily even on forums just by the way they write, they always have this smug and arrogant tone.

Yet I get the impression most non-British people like the British character and sarcastic British humour, especially Americans and generally don't seem to relate to my dislike of my own country and culture.
I don't expect people to blindly always love everything about their fellow citizens but I have to agree with Pedro - you do appear to have a major chip on your shoulder. Maybe you need to take a step back and consider that some of this hatred has more to do with your attitude than with the people around you. Hatred is something which festers easily if not checked.

And yes, I do like the British sense of humor - because it's funny. And it's not always sarcastic. Maybe you just don't have a very good sense of humor. What sort of humor do you like?
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 07:55 PM   #34

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I am British yet I find most British people completely insufferable. Arrogant, sarcastic, sneering, self-serving, believe in nothing, often aggressive and very often foul mouthed too. I even find most British regional accents to be very irritating and grating.

I find you can tell a Brit easily even on forums just by the way they write, they always have this smug and arrogant tone.

Yet I get the impression most non-British people like the British character and sarcastic British humour, especially Americans and generally don't seem to relate to my dislike of my own country and culture.
Well, it's certainly not normal. Either your country propaganda office sucks ass or Russia spies has penetrated deep into your country.
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I think you need a break from the internet for a long time, maybe drink some coffee?
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Well, it's certainly not normal. Either your country propaganda office sucks ass or Russia spies has penetrated deep into your country.
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 11:48 PM   #37

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I say old chap, pass the tea and cucumber sandwiches eh, what what, 'ows yer father, know what I mean, God Save the Queen toodleppip guvnor?
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 04:39 AM   #38

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I am British yet I find most British people completely insufferable. Arrogant, sarcastic, sneering, self-servings, believe in nothing, often aggressive and very often foul mouthed too.I even find most British regional accents to be very irritating and grating.

I find you can tell a Brit easily even on forums just by the way they write, they always have this smug and arrogant tone.
What an arrogant sneering sarcastic post, you come across as somebody completely insufferable.

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Old January 3rd, 2017, 06:04 PM   #39

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And yes, I do like the British sense of humor - because it's funny. And it's not always sarcastic.
When I think "British Humour" I think of Benny Hill and I have to smile! I loved that guy! I can still hear that Yakkity Sax and see him being chased through the park!
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Old January 3rd, 2017, 06:14 PM   #40

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I am British yet I find most British people completely insufferable. Arrogant, sarcastic, sneering, self-serving, believe in nothing, often aggressive and very often foul mouthed too. I even find most British regional accents to be very irritating and grating.

I find you can tell a Brit easily even on forums just by the way they write, they always have this smug and arrogant tone.

Yet I get the impression most non-British people like the British character and sarcastic British humour, especially Americans and generally don't seem to relate to my dislike of my own country and culture.
From my experience working in tourism industry they are proud people. Sometimes complicated only when they want the best from you. No different from other individuals...totally love their accent.
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