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Old February 16th, 2017, 11:25 AM   #11

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Old February 16th, 2017, 08:52 PM   #12

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There are people today are in better shape than any previous humans in history (elite pro athletes).

On the whole, aside from life-saving and extending technology we as a species are in worse shape today than in days past before civilization.
Let's quote one saying from the Onion's horoscope:

"Youíll finally get into shape this week, though which one exactly, isnít clear yet."

Even being overweight doesn't mean you are shapeless.

As for professional athletes, they only stay in their professional zenith for their prime, and they often suffer from chronic pains and other results of overtraining.
Some of them will get out of shape once they are out of their careers.
By and large, I have some objections against competitive sports.
Why are we researching life-saving and extending technologies instead of something that promotes health?
Imagine a 100+ person who has not been to hospitals for 40 years! If all people are like that, our GDP may shrink due to massive decline of medical expenses.
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Based on my studies of history and related subjects for decades,I think it is beyond argument that the vast majority of homo sapiens have degenerated physically and emotionally, while we have advanced mentally.

Yes, some of us do try to stay in shape, and professional athletes can perform physical feats that would be at least equal to anything any of their forefathers or mothers could have done. But most of us are relative wimps.

To take just one example from the not-too-distant past: the people who migrated to the US Oregon Territory in the 1840s. Men, women and children walked around 2,000 miles beside wagons, carrying their entire estates with them. Many were killed by Natives, many starved or froze to death, many died of cholera, but the rest just kept on coming. How many residents of the current US Pacific Northwest could "trek" on foot even to the eastern border of their states?
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Based on my studies of history and related subjects for decades,I think it is beyond argument that the vast majority of homo sapiens have degenerated physically and emotionally, while we have advanced mentally.

Yes, some of us do try to stay in shape, and professional athletes can perform physical feats that would be at least equal to anything any of their forefathers or mothers could have done. But most of us are relative wimps.

To take just one example from the not-too-distant past: the people who migrated to the US Oregon Territory in the 1840s. Men, women and children walked around 2,000 miles beside wagons, carrying their entire estates with them. Many were killed by Natives, many starved or froze to death, many died of cholera, but the rest just kept on coming. How many residents of the current US Pacific Northwest could "trek" on foot even to the eastern border of their states?
We certainly have earned longer lifespan with life saving and extending medicine, but have our general health improved?
Since I only discovered yoga and various Chinese exercises a few months back, and I am not particularly diligent, I am only marginal fitter than previously.
As for testosterone, I often bash some people for "testosterone worship". Health is much more complicated than a few set of hormones and supplements.
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We live on a spherical planet, so logically the perfect physical shape is SPHERICAL. What's hard about this?

All seriousness aside, I see our lifestyle as the current high point in human evolution, though we haven't reached the top yet.

Sure, excercise and proper diet and health are still good for you, blah blah blah. Do it if you like. Note that Chinese exercise isn't good for you because it's Chinese, it's good for you because it's *exercise*. Pretty much any activity regimen you take up is an improvement over another weekend of junk food in front of the boob tube or gaming online. If you WANT to do that, of course!

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We live on a spherical planet, so logically the perfect physical shape is SPHERICAL. What's hard about this?

All seriousness aside, I see our lifestyle as the current high point in human evolution, though we haven't reached the top yet.

Sure, excercise and proper diet and health are still good for you, blah blah blah. Do it if you like. Note that Chinese exercise isn't good for you because it's Chinese, it's good for you because it's *exercise*. Pretty much any activity regimen you take up is an improvement over another weekend of junk food in front of the boob tube or gaming online. If you WANT to do that, of course!

Gotta go, snack time!

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Speaking of Chinese exercise, I think you might find the stone lock exercise very interesting. Be sure to check it out as it is pretty cool.
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Speaking of Chinese exercise, I think you might find the stone lock exercise very interesting. Be sure to check it out as it is pretty cool.
Does it involve donuts? And will I have to get out of my comfy chair?

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I have thought about from time to time over the years. As a traditionalist (I guess that is why I enjoy history), I closely examine "advancements" in society. I agree with one poster who commented we are less emotionally strong, generally speaking (exceptions abound on an individual level). I say this because I don't believe most of us have been tested with the struggles of life that many of our ancestors had. Physically, we are we more or less? This is a challenge. Many worked with their hands and their back in the past. My uncle could have crushed your hand when he shook it. He was a steel worker and had a steel grip. On the other hand, nutrition and medical advances - and less back breaking work - have made many of us more fit than our ancestors, even if we minimally "work out."
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