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Old July 25th, 2017, 05:26 AM   #21

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What I fail to understand is, that in this day and age of technological prowess and high quality cell phone cams, the photos that are made of UFO's are still blurry affairs every time.

Are UFO's pruposefully seeking out witnesses with bad cams?

Don't get me wrong, I believe in extraterrestrial life (it's statistically impossible that it doesn't exist), but I don't think we were ever visited by them before.
For me, UFO sightings are mostly misinterpretations of natural phenomena. And those that aren't misinterpretations are either tall tales or alcohol/drugs induced visions.
I think there are plenty of cases where they are none of the above. I don't believe all of these people are delusional or on drugs; pilots, veterans and all kinds of other folks have seen some of these pretty close up. a number of governments and agencies have conducted studies, reaching different conclusions. Not everyone who sees UFOs is a shrooming bumpkin:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_..._1628_incident

And why would we fly top-secret craft over civilian areas or airports without notifying anyone of their presence? Or scramble jets after them repeatedly. Or have secret files on them?
Is this a good place to test secret aircraft --that apparently uses a different kind of propulsion? (what if there was a mishap?) They are reported in most countries of the world (a good place to test secret craft?):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O...t_UFO_sighting

Why pour money into liquid fuel rockets or space shuttles then?
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Old July 25th, 2017, 05:35 AM   #23

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Seen by police, others. Read the description of what they saw.
1965: Sherman, Texas UFO Sighting - Think About It

"The object’s shape was a cylinder with “Mercury capsule” shape at one end, possibly rounded at other end. Several distinct bands around diameter of cylinder, with disc shaped “bosses” on surface. Bands of luminosity. An extrusion of luminosity from one band, and an ejection of an unknown material accompanied the object"

If that was a natural phenomenon, then just wow.
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Witness To Wanaque: The Greatest Mass UFO Sighting Never Told

You can see the ionization cloud that forms around the object.

Here we have witnesses:

Mayor Harry T. Wolfe and his Son Billy

- Councilmen Warren Hagstrom, Arthur Barton and John Shuttle

- Civil Defense Administrators Bentley Spencer and Richard Vrooman

- Chief of Police Floyd Elson

- Officer George Dyckman

- Patrolman Joe Cisco

- Sgt. Bobby Gordon (Pompton Lakes Police)

- Sgts. Ben Thompson and David Sisco

- Patrolmen Edward Nestor and Jack Wardlaw

- Reservoir Police & Personnel George Destito, Charles Theodora, Fred Steines

- The Mother Superior of a Local Convent

I mean, come on..

The Farmington UFOs and the Lubbock Lights and Wanaque too IIRC, were seen over multiple days.

Just like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_W...._UFO_incident

And Truman had to address the public! He talked about UFOs at EVERY meeting with the military --why bother? And talk about it???

Hallucinations.. eh??

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More hallucinating bumpkins:


Police drawing (swamp gas?):
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I don't know. I tend to go along with Stephen Hawking's take. If aliens were really visiting, it would be a lot more obvious and a lot more unpleasant.
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I don't know. I tend to go along with Stephen Hawking's take. If aliens were really visiting, it would be a lot more obvious and a lot more unpleasant.
IF they are so advanced, it might be a lot more subtle --especially if they have been lurking for a very long time.

If I was going to suggest a plan to introduce our species to a less-developed alien one, I'd:

1. Do it gradually.
2. Show the alien military that they have no power over us, without making it explicitly clear to the wider populations.
3. Gradually make appearances over time to keep the possibility open in aliens' minds.
4. Try to interact with the aliens with intermediary robots that resemble them.
5. periodically take aliens for study and remote study populations
6. Reveal ourselves gradually to different sectors of the population so that if we are forced to intervene, there won't be mass panic.

It's less far out than what some scientists have suggested:
http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/ali...even-ourselves

Oh yeah.. #7:
Hang out in their oceans undetected.

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A couple of documents that are rather interesting:
https://santitafarella.wordpress.com...s-1983-letter/
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IF they are so advanced, it might be a lot more subtle --especially if they have been lurking for a very long time.

If I was going to suggest a plan to introduce our species to a less-developed alien one, I'd:

1. Do it gradually.
2. Show the alien military that they have no power over us, without making it explicitly clear to the wider populations.
3. Gradually make appearances over time to keep the possibility open in aliens' minds.
4. Try to interact with the aliens with intermediary robots that resemble them.
5. periodically take aliens for study and remote study populations
6. Reveal ourselves gradually to different sectors of the population so that if we are forced to intervene, there won't be mass panic.

It's less far out than what some scientists have suggested:
Aliens May be Woven into the Fabric of Nature and Even Ourselves | Big Think

Oh yeah.. #7:
Hang out in their oceans undetected.
There's a boatload of assumptions in that list. Most prominent being that aliens will think like modern-day anthropologists or Gene Roddenberry.

If they're here just to observe, I don't think they would be so clumsy. (Why come all this way just to observe? Why not just send a robot ship or two?)

If they're here to colonize, I just can't imagine why they would bother with niceties. The colony ship or whathaveyou has traveled the vastness of space for who knows how long. I think they would just get on with it. Perhaps they would have some sympathy for the indigenous, tool-using hominids on the planet to extent they would refrain from exterminating them entirely and allow them some reserved areas on which they could live.
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1. No reason to assume that they are just here for us --perhaps robotic probes have been here since before the dinosaurs.

2. Scientists and Hollywood are the ones with childish ideas about aliens --ray guns, completely anthropomorphized --never even stop to think that "greys" might not even be aliens, Show up like some simian tribal army to engage in combat with use because we are so special. Of course they would want to meet our leaders --because we are so special.

3. Some scientists suggest that the aliens we would meet would be more peaceful --if they were able to develop advanced technology without destroying themselves.

4. It would be very hard for us to understand something so advanced --even with our computing power:
Are You Living in a Simulation?

5. I don't think the aliens themselves are here --everything people report could be robotic
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