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Old August 24th, 2017, 01:01 PM   #1

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Are children today too spoiled?


This has become a serious question these days. Do you think that modern children are too spoiled?
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This has become a serious question these days. Do you think that modern children are too spoiled?
Generally speaking, especially comparing to older times, perhaps that they are more spoiled, but it depends on their cultural background and social class. Anyway, as an example, I don't like too much the contemporary idea that giving marks at school is traumatizing for some children, and consequently should be renounced.

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Old August 24th, 2017, 03:14 PM   #3

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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
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Seems to be an old bias generations have about newer generations. It doesn't mean it can never apply.
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Statistics seem to support the argument. This book has an amusing title but it looks at a serious issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books/ab...AJ&redir_esc=y
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Attributed to Socrates, by Plato.

Seems to be an old bias generations have about newer generations. It doesn't mean it can never apply.
Something I heard first hand inspired me to make a thread about this. I overheard two women complaining their kids are way too spoiled, something about doing absolutely everything for them and the kids being too demanding.

To be sure, this is an evergreen topic. Every new generation will hear the older ones nagging how spoiled they are.

Though, I think kids today are indeed becoming pretty spoiled. At least in the Western world.
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Statistics seem to support the argument. This book has an amusing title but it looks at a serious issue.

https://books.google.com.au/books/ab...AJ&redir_esc=y
I see what you mean, had to stifle a giggle, being American. I believe now that Prince Boofheads can grow up to be King Boofheads too (or I suppose sh*t heads would be the American equivalent) if the circumstances are ripe
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Something I heard first hand inspired me to make a thread about this. I overheard two women complaining their kids are way too spoiled, something about doing absolutely everything for them and the kids being too demanding.

To be sure, this is an evergreen topic. Every new generation will hear the older ones nagging how spoiled they are.

Though, I think kids today are indeed becoming pretty spoiled. At least in the Western world.
On one hand it is very true that after a certain age people tend to idealize the years of their youth in relation to their more and more age-declining present, on the other an increase in superficiality and a decrease in good manners in "the Western world" is an objective phenomenon.

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On one hand it is very true that after a certain age people tend to idealize the years of their youth in relation to their more and more age-declining present, on the other an increase in superficiality and a decrease in good manners in "the Western world" is an objective phenomenon.
Are the children today that deficient?
We have all types of programs, such as Respect Education from Canadian Red Cross and other abuse prevention programs.
We also have programs for children of special needs; then, all children are special in one way or the other.
Nostalgia traps happen when we see the past with rosy eyewear.
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Are the children today that deficient?
We have all types of programs, such as Respect Education from Canadian Red Cross and other abuse prevention programs.
We also have programs for children of special needs; then, all children are special in one way or the other.
Nostalgia traps happen when we see the past with rosy eyewear.
I'm not sure what you wanted to mean, when I was in primary school we received marks, in theory from 1 to 10 though in practice they were usually from 4 to 10, now they are replaced by a few grades/scores (almost everybody receives the best grade/score, supposedly in order to avoid traumatizing the children slower in learning), and even these grades/scores are called into question (and already renounced in certain countries, as I know very well).

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This has become a serious question these days. Do you think that modern children are too spoiled?
It has always been a problem. There is nothing one can do about it. So just enjoy them and guide them and love them and hope for the best.
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