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Old September 14th, 2017, 12:49 PM   #1

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Raped by policemen ...


Note:I've used the term "policemen" to make the title clear for not Italians, since the "rapers" [supposed rapers] are "Carabinieri" [soldiers who act as policemen in peace time].

Now, it was ... "To serve and protect" not "to rape and abandon".

This has happened to two young American girls in Italy, in Florence.

What annoys me more is that it seems that the lawyers of the two "gentlemen" are going to underline that the two American girls were drunk.

So what?

I would like to meet those lawyers, just to cross our swords [if and when they are able to handle a sword].

WTF is that argument???

Now ... am I justified to rape a drunk girl?

I am a knight and I do hope that those two "gentlemen" will face the Martial Court.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/09/w...e.html?mcubz=0]

From this I would reason a bit about how some individuals can manage in the wrong way their authority.

The girls have said that they were afraid because the Carabinieri had weapons.

This means that they showed to carry weapons ... in an aggressive way [it's not difficult to carry a weapon without generating concerns ... it's about how you carry that weapon].
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Old September 14th, 2017, 12:53 PM   #2

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You put a thug in a uniform, and he's still a thug.

It happens everywhere.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 01:01 PM   #3

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After this introduction, I would enlarge the "horizon".

What about employers asking "too much" to female employees?

That is to say ...

is it not so rare that men with authority take advantage from their position to obtain "something" from women under their authority?
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Old September 14th, 2017, 01:03 PM   #4

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You put a thug in a uniform, and he's still a thug.

It happens everywhere.
This is clear ... but it hurts. Overall thinking that to become a Carabiniere you have to take an oath on the Italian Constitution.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 01:36 PM   #5

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AlpinLuke friend real stories and similars happens all over the world those individuals who practice these acts must be punished by justice.
only that there is a problem in many countries, I can include my, justice is blind because money buy justice,only pity is the evil that happens to others and not happen to relatives of judges. I have examples about the Portuguese justice she is corrupt.citizens are only valid to pay taxes justice is only for those who have money.

thieves - rapists - forest fires -
killers = it's race to extremes do not deserve to live.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 03:13 PM   #6

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An American girl I knew was raped in Japan, not by police but some random local. She was drunk but when the police investigated as soon as the found out she was drunk they dropped the case saying they wouldn't have a chance at a prosecution.

Messed up.
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Some individuals seek to be police officers just because they're corrupt and they know that such positions will give them access to potential victims.
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In the US states differ on certain conditons surrounding an alleged sexual assault. All states recognize that sex without the consent of the alleged victim is a crime. But does consent need to be verbal or can it be implied? If the alleged victim does not resist and evidence of coercion is not provided, a conviction may be difficult. I read about a case in Montana about the experience of a woman in her own home. She had small children. A stranger kicked the door down and entered the home. Her testimony was that he threatened the children. She did not resist out of fear for her children and herself. After the alleged assault the stranger left and she called the police. The evidence of the violent break-in in was noted. Vaginal swabs done at a hospital revealed DNA of a known violent sexual offender. He was arrested and charged. At the trial, the defense lawyer claimed that the sex was consensual since she did not resist according to the testimony of her children. I don't know the verdict because the trial was in progress when I read the article. The article was very critical of the defense lawyer's tactics, but if the defendant had gained access without kicking down the door, there was a fair chance he would have been acquitted.

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In the US states differ on certain conditons surrounding an alleged sexual assault. All states recognize that sex without the consent of the alleged victim is a crime. But does consent need to be verbal or can it be implied? If the alleged victim does not resist and evidence of coercion is not provided, a conviction may be difficult. I read about a case in Montana about the experience of a woman in her own home. She had small children. A stranger kicked the door down and entered the home. Her testimony was that he threatened the children. She did not resist out of fear for her children and herself. After the alleged assault the stranger left and she called the police. The evidence of the violent break-in in was noted. Vaginal swabs done at a hospital revealed DNA of a known violent sexual offender. He was arrested and charged. At the trial, the defense lawyer claimed that the sex was consensual since she did not resist according to the testimony of her children. I don't know the verdict because the trial was in progress when I read the article. The article was very critical of the defense lawyer's tactics, but if the defendant had gained access without kicking down the door, there was a fair chance he would have been acquitted.
I'm not really sure that I get your point.
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