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Fenestella October 28th, 2017 07:32 PM

Evolutionarily, how come straight men want conversion therapy for gay men?
 
Evolutionarily, it's easy to see why straight men want conversion therapy for lesbians: one more straight woman means one more potential mate.

But why would straight men want conversion therapy for gay men? Evolutionarily, doesn't one more gay man mean one fewer potential competitor for mates (is this the real driving force behind gay lobby)?

Lawnmowerman October 28th, 2017 07:44 PM

Who says we do. This is a flawed and silly question which should be removed.

Fenestella October 28th, 2017 07:49 PM

Some, not all, of course not.

dagul October 28th, 2017 07:56 PM

Anyone who is gay is gay and not straight. You may be talking about pretenders.

Edric Streona October 28th, 2017 08:24 PM

I’ve never heard of this in real life. Only on talk shows.
I suspect it’s a religious thing ...

Moros October 29th, 2017 05:19 AM

Why pick on the straight men? It might be women behind it, who want more men to choose from!

Anna Freud, Virginia Johnson, Elizabeth Moberley - all been in the forefront of seeing homosexuality as something that needs to be 'cured'.

Rodger October 29th, 2017 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenestella (Post 2849097)
Evolutionarily, it's easy to see why straight men want conversion therapy for lesbians: one more straight woman means one more potential mate.

But why would straight men want conversion therapy for gay men? Evolutionarily, doesn't one more gay man mean one fewer potential competitor for mates (is this the real driving force behind gay lobby)?

The OP assumes most heterosexual males wants conversion therapy for gay men. I don't believe this. The OP mentions that perhaps this is the reason for the emergence of the gay lobby. If the first point is flawed, then it follows so is the second. I have know a few gay men who wish to flex their muscles (so to speak) because they are angry at the heterosexual community. They make remarks such as "you can kiss your mate in public and I can't." Should I assume - based upon the comments of a few gay men - that the real intention of the gay lobby is to bring down heterosexual relationships, or would that be a simply silly assumption?

larkin October 29th, 2017 04:35 PM

Prison...

cachibatches October 29th, 2017 06:17 PM

Question is flawed because most men don't. Those that do want it for religious reasons.

The natural aversion of the heterosexual male to homosexuality, as evidenced from the most ancient times, is due to to fear, conscious or subconsious, of homexual rape. As documented in several threads, homosexuality was illegal in Rome, illegal in Sparta, and looked down upon in Athens. Contrary to modern revisionist nonsense, Alexander the Great despised homosexuality. Cicero even told a story about the nobility of a Roman soldier killing an officer (!) who was trying to seduce him. I don't know a lot about feelings towards homosexuality in older cultures, such as Egypt and Mesopatamia, but I do know that in the epic of Gilgamesh, it was written that Gilgamesh gave the men no peace from figthing and the women no peace from seduction--no mention of sex with men.

Due to our modern day republican values, I think we have gotten over a lot of this, except for the religious community, whose rules harken back to a time when there were such iniquities of rights and powers, that some men would indeed be free to rape others.

HackneyedScribe October 29th, 2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

As documented in several threads, homosexuality was illegal in Rome, illegal in Sparta, and looked down upon in Athens. Contrary to modern revisionist nonsense, Alexander the Great despised homosexuality. Cicero even told a story about the nobility of a Roman soldier killing an officer (!) who was trying to seduce him.
Curious, which threads? Can you sum them up here?


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