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Old October 28th, 2017, 07:32 PM   #1
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Evolutionarily, how come straight men want conversion therapy for gay men?


Evolutionarily, it's easy to see why straight men want conversion therapy for lesbians: one more straight woman means one more potential mate.

But why would straight men want conversion therapy for gay men? Evolutionarily, doesn't one more gay man mean one fewer potential competitor for mates (is this the real driving force behind gay lobby)?
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Who says we do. This is a flawed and silly question which should be removed.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 07:49 PM   #3
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Some, not all, of course not.
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Anyone who is gay is gay and not straight. You may be talking about pretenders.
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Old October 28th, 2017, 08:24 PM   #5

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I’ve never heard of this in real life. Only on talk shows.
I suspect it’s a religious thing ...
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Old October 29th, 2017, 05:19 AM   #6

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Why pick on the straight men? It might be women behind it, who want more men to choose from!

Anna Freud, Virginia Johnson, Elizabeth Moberley - all been in the forefront of seeing homosexuality as something that needs to be 'cured'.
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Evolutionarily, it's easy to see why straight men want conversion therapy for lesbians: one more straight woman means one more potential mate.

But why would straight men want conversion therapy for gay men? Evolutionarily, doesn't one more gay man mean one fewer potential competitor for mates (is this the real driving force behind gay lobby)?
The OP assumes most heterosexual males wants conversion therapy for gay men. I don't believe this. The OP mentions that perhaps this is the reason for the emergence of the gay lobby. If the first point is flawed, then it follows so is the second. I have know a few gay men who wish to flex their muscles (so to speak) because they are angry at the heterosexual community. They make remarks such as "you can kiss your mate in public and I can't." Should I assume - based upon the comments of a few gay men - that the real intention of the gay lobby is to bring down heterosexual relationships, or would that be a simply silly assumption?
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Old October 29th, 2017, 06:17 PM   #9

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Question is flawed because most men don't. Those that do want it for religious reasons.

The natural aversion of the heterosexual male to homosexuality, as evidenced from the most ancient times, is due to to fear, conscious or subconsious, of homexual rape. As documented in several threads, homosexuality was illegal in Rome, illegal in Sparta, and looked down upon in Athens. Contrary to modern revisionist nonsense, Alexander the Great despised homosexuality. Cicero even told a story about the nobility of a Roman soldier killing an officer (!) who was trying to seduce him. I don't know a lot about feelings towards homosexuality in older cultures, such as Egypt and Mesopatamia, but I do know that in the epic of Gilgamesh, it was written that Gilgamesh gave the men no peace from figthing and the women no peace from seduction--no mention of sex with men.

Due to our modern day republican values, I think we have gotten over a lot of this, except for the religious community, whose rules harken back to a time when there were such iniquities of rights and powers, that some men would indeed be free to rape others.

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As documented in several threads, homosexuality was illegal in Rome, illegal in Sparta, and looked down upon in Athens. Contrary to modern revisionist nonsense, Alexander the Great despised homosexuality. Cicero even told a story about the nobility of a Roman soldier killing an officer (!) who was trying to seduce him.
Curious, which threads? Can you sum them up here?
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