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Old November 8th, 2017, 01:30 PM   #1

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Are there acceptable limitations on freedom of speech


What are acceptable limitations on freedom of speech - statements and expression that warrant justifiable state sanction? Are there any?

Fraud, misrepresentation, omission in contract/business?

Hate speech? Anti-Semitism?
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Downside on freedom of speech is that people abuse it to say all kinds of rediculous stuff.
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Old November 8th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #3

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Like every sort of freedom, it does not mean that you do anything you like. It means you can exercise your rights, but you cannot impede others from exercising their rights. For instance, you have the right to walk outside, but you do not have the right to bump into others nor to prevent others from walking. You have the right to play loud music, but you do not have the right to prevent others from sleeping. So, you have the right to express your opinions, but you cannot prevent others from doing so, and you do not have the right to verbally assault people. What you can and cannot say largely depends on the situation at hand. Just as it's fine to run down the street when there are only a few people there, but not when there's a crowd because you'll hurt people. There are times when you can say things, but there are times when you can't because it could hurt people there. Basically, you need to apply common sense.
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In the UK you have the offence of 'Slander' if you accuse someone of something verbally -- they have the right to sue you to prove that's its correct if not you pay compensation.
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Slander and libel laws spell out what sort of speech is not permitted.
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Dangerous speech. Climate denial, trickle down and peddling false stats about how private health insurance works are the three things where censorship would be greatly helpful in the modern context. US Court System's precedent is protesting WWI on the grounds that "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" and I think that's fair.
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Dangerous speech. Climate denial, trickle down and peddling false stats about how private health insurance works are the three things where censorship would be greatly helpful in the modern context. US Court System's precedent is protesting WWI on the grounds that "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" and I think that's fair.
And who decides what is 'dangerous speech'? There are already laws in place to protect against libel, slander, false advertising etc. along with the obvious public good of the fire in a crowded theatre scenario. What you propose is a restriction of the expression of ideas, an entirely different thing.
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And who decides what is 'dangerous speech'? There are already laws in place to protect against libel, slander, false advertising etc. along with the obvious public good of the fire in a crowded theatre scenario. What you propose is a restriction of the expression of ideas, an entirely different thing.
Promoting Nazism, and not the Golden Dawn "I am not a Nazi (but I really am deep down inside)" kind of Nazi. But real Nazis who want ethnic cleansing. Assume that. Is that allowed?
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The freedom of speech is limitless against public figures in certain jurisdictions.

Indeed, slander or oral defamation and libel are their limitations.
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Dangerous speech. Climate denial, trickle down and peddling false stats about how private health insurance works are the three things where censorship would be greatly helpful in the modern context. US Court System's precedent is protesting WWI on the grounds that "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" and I think that's fair.
The "doctrine of clear and present danger" and the "dangerous tendency rule" are bench marks legal principles in determination of them.
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