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Old December 22nd, 2017, 07:37 PM   #21
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Maybe in an ideal world public opinion wouldn't matter but even in authoritarian system public opinion matters and in a democracy it matters even more (though obviously not all-encompassing).

The consequences of any decision made in public policy(which philosphy, political science, and sociology are all about) benefits some people more than others and thus it is clear why people do not want to cede power to 'experts' to make the decisions and in fact experts even in the 'hard' sciences lost the debate surprisingly often to political considerations- IE public opinion.

Arguing about a system of debate that does not deal with reality is pointless in my opinion so I'd rather make the best of how the world really is and that should acknowledge that many rhetorical devices employed in debates while irrational, obtuse, ignorant, abusive, or pure trolling still effect outcomes and a policy of taking the high ground and ignoring it is really self destructive if you care about the truth even if you are aware few people will ever understand a given subject the actual outcomes of public debates can matter.


If you don't understand the context in my humble and rather personal opinion you shouldn't enter into it. I will reiterate that there are a lot of areas I don't enter into in this forum simply because I am not knowledgable in those areas and people don't have the time to wait for me to say something knowledgable in this age of instant gratification. So I will resort to my default answer:

It is better to be thought of as an idiot than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.


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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:27 AM   #22
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I am seeing more and more of the tactic in the OP


4 step debating tactic

1- Accuse
2- Discredit
3- Insult
4- Run Away

Therefore I've decided to "patent it" and call it ADIR (all rights reserved ) ....

Its easier to call out those who use it that way
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Old December 28th, 2017, 08:47 PM   #23

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If you don't understand the context in my humble and rather personal opinion you shouldn't enter into it. I will reiterate that there are a lot of areas I don't enter into in this forum simply because I am not knowledgable in those areas and people don't have the time to wait for me to say something knowledgable in this age of instant gratification.
If you have a personal opinion you want to keep personal it makes sense not to post in an open public forum.

Your previous post addressed some points in my own post directly above in the thread so if there is a different context you meant to stipulate you forgot to mention that.
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