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View Poll Results: How strong is your will to live?
My will to live is the highest it can be. 3 33.33%
I have a high will to live. 1 11.11%
My will to live is fair. 0 0%
My will to live is low. 1 11.11%
I don't want to die, but if it happens I'm okay with that. 2 22.22%
I have lost a little of my will to live. 1 11.11%
I have lost some will to live. 0 0%
I don't want to live any more. 1 11.11%
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Old December 29th, 2017, 08:26 AM   #1

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How strong is your will to live? And, what are the reasons some people lose the will to live?
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Old December 29th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #2

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I almost chose "I don't want to die but if it happens, I'm OK with it. However, the older I get, the less I feel the urge to keep on living. Don't get me wrong: I enjoy life a lot. But I know I'm going to die one day (as all of us are) and there are days when I wouldn't mind it happening right then.

I love to drive, and particularly love to drive on windy mountain roads. While driving through the Highlands of Scotland recently, I had the thought that there and then would have been a pretty good place to die. Didn't make me want to drive off the road; just if I were to have a fatal heart attack, it would have been way better to end it doing something I love than to end it a nursing home after ten years of drooling on my chest and not knowing what year it was.

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Old December 29th, 2017, 08:43 AM   #3

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How strong is your will to live? And, what are the reasons some people lose the will to live?
Enough strong ...

Pay attention that the loss of will to live is temporary, I could say instantaneous. If a person wanting to kill himself waits a minute ... he won't kill himself.

It unnatural to lose the will to live. Something has to happen at unconscious level. To survive is a natural basic instinct.
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Enough strong ...

Pay attention that the loss of will to live is temporary, I could say instantaneous. If a person wanting to kill himself waits a minute ... he won't kill himself.

It unnatural to lose the will to live. Something has to happen at unconscious level. To survive is a natural basic instinct.
True, we naturally want to survive, but there are people ending their lives all the time, more so in some countries than others. There is a fellow I talk to who basically wants it to end, even though he's got a lot going for him, and it's not a temporary thing. It just seems like he's done what he wanted to do in this world. This fellow is getting older, but it also seems as if young people lose their will to live. In some cases, it could be an episode of depression, but it also seems that some of them question what the point of living is.
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I almost chose "I don't want to die but if it happens, I'm OK with it. However, the older I get, the less I feel the urge to keep on living. Don't get me wrong: I enjoy life a lot. But I know I'm going to die one day (as all of us are) and there are days when I wouldn't mind it happening right then.

I love to drive, and particularly love to drive on windy mountain roads. While driving through the Highlands of Scotland recently, I had the thought that there and then would have been a pretty good place to die. Didn't make me want to drive off the road; just if I were to have a fatal heart attack, it would have been way better to end it doing something I love than to end it a nursing home after ten years of drooling on my chest and not knowing what year it was.
Nursing homes seem like prolonged suffering. There was a lady I knew many years ago who is now in a home, but her Alzhimer's is so bad that she does not know how to eat her food on her own. She wears diapers and just sits there all day. Others say it would be better if she just didn't wake up, but... In cases like that, I think it would be more humane to help the person end it.
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True, we naturally want to survive, but there are people ending their lives all the time, more so in some countries than others. There is a fellow I talk to who basically wants it to end, even though he's got a lot going for him, and it's not a temporary thing. It just seems like he's done what he wanted to do in this world. This fellow is getting older, but it also seems as if young people lose their will to live. In some cases, it could be an episode of depression, but it also seems that some of them question what the point of living is.
If depression was a cause of suicide there will be an enormous number of cases of suicide.

Depression is a state of mind [a transitory state of mind, even if in some cases it lasts for the entire life].

Suicide is similar to an impulse, an immediate need for action.
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If depression was a cause of suicide there will be an enormous number of cases of suicide.

Depression is a state of mind [a transitory state of mind, even if in some cases it lasts for the entire life].

Suicide is similar to an impulse, an immediate need for action.
This is only true in some cases. Some people stay depressed for some time, until they eventually end it. Others commit suicide because of an experience.

While I lived in Hong Kong, there were a lot of cases, and the main cause seemed to be prolonged stress. People facing too much pressure day after day, until they could not take it any more. So, I don't think we can just categorize suicide into only an impulse.
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Nursing homes seem like prolonged suffering. There was a lady I knew many years ago who is now in a home, but her Alzhimer's is so bad that she does not know how to eat her food on her own. She wears diapers and just sits there all day. Others say it would be better if she just didn't wake up, but... In cases like that, I think it would be more humane to help the person end it.
Well, it would be better if she just didn't wake up. But if the patient doesn't know how to eat, how likely is it that she will have the mental capacity to decide to kill herself? So it would seem that the decision is often made by her doctor(s) who "help" her.
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This is only true in some cases. Some people stay depressed for some time, until they eventually end it. Others commit suicide because of an experience.

While I lived in Hong Kong, there were a lot of cases, and the main cause seemed to be prolonged stress. People facing too much pressure day after day, until they could not take it any more. So, I don't think we can just categorize suicide into only an impulse.
That's selection ... in environment where the competition is extreme there should be well more suicides than what we record. I accept this: the strongest one survives ...
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I'd say it varies, depending on circumstances, and I suspect it is similar with most other people.
We go through different periods in our lives, and our personalities change accordingly.

One sees life differently when he's 18 and when he's 80.

I tend to have extremely high expectations of myself and other people and the world in general, which can be a cause for disappointments. It does not stop me from being realistic though.

What keeps me going on is the though that I must endure, even in the face of great adversity. Somebody would find my attitude towards life bleak, but on the other hand, it can be an incredibly positive factor in hard times.
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