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Old April 6th, 2018, 11:31 PM   #1

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What are Western values?


Other than individualism, what are the prevailing Western values observable and practiced in Western societies today?
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Is there any good answer to that? I think they are at best very "flexible", not very well defined. And where is "the west" located? At the "western edge" of the earth? But wait, there is no real "edge" of this planet, or to put it another way: solid earth ends under our feet.
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They're definitely not as clear-cut as you'd like, and as with "Eastern values" there's a bit of a misnomer as there's variations between each culture.

But generally, I imagine you're looking for Enlightenment values. In the West, there's generally a greater willingness to question tradition and orthodoxy. Liberalism and tolerance are generally more widely accepted notions. As you said, individual liberty is a prevailing value, so there's a much greater intolerance for authoritarianism than in other regions of the world where it's a recurring them and usually accepted without as much resistance. The West is usually considered more progressive and willing to challenge pre-existing social boundaries and norms.
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Almost everything the Westerners take for granted.
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-Liberalism
-Tolerance
-Progressivism
-Scientism
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This sounds suspiciously like a homework assignment. Members should not provide substantive assistence to students until they have demonstrated a good faith effort and significant work has been done by the student(s) themselves. On the other hand, the OP has been a member for about a decade and is very probably not a student.
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This sounds suspiciously like a homework assignment. Members should not provide substantive assistence to students until they have demonstrated a good faith effort and significant work has been done by the student(s) themselves. On the other hand, the OP has been a member for about a decade and is very probably not a student.
Reasonable suspicion! I'm currently hot and heavy with Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations" and feel my IQ rising as I read it. Can't stop contemplating it and it's stimulating a need to cull opinions about how Westerners view themselves and are viewed from outside - this forum that intersects both. I'd like to do a thread of all (Huntington's) 9 civilizations' values, but stopped at 3 to see if the repetitiveness threw up any red flags.
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Is there any good answer to that? I think they are at best very "flexible", not very well defined. And where is "the west" located? At the "western edge" of the earth? But wait, there is no real "edge" of this planet, or to put it another way: solid earth ends under our feet.
We Indians understand the Western world as comprising of Britain, Ireland, Iceland, the European Continent including the Russian Federation and the USA. We might agree to have included therein such countries as the West Indies, Canada and Mexico but not the countries of South America.
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Other than individualism, what are the prevailing Western values observable and practiced in Western societies today?
If you're referring to 21th century Western values they're slightly different from classical Western values, in 2018 most people in a Western society aim at economic and material well-being, satisfaction in doing their job, sexual satisfaction, growing up a family, I bet in some decades feeding each one's ego may be added.

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-Liberalism
-Tolerance
-Progressivism
-Scientism
-Individualism
I would rephrase the way some of these are expressed, and the order they're in, but I think that in general that's a pretty good list.

Individualism is by far the most important, IMO. That implies tolerance and liberalism (in the classical sense of liberalism)

I'd add
--due process of law
--private enterprise
--Judeo-Christianity

For "scientism", I'd substitute "the empirical method" as "scientism" to me connotes a belief that scientists are always right, or that they trump every other value.

For "progressivism" I'd substitute "a belief that things are generally getting better"

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