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Old July 4th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #91

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Old November 10th, 2012, 08:57 AM   #92
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Should marijuana be legalized for recreational use yes or no? Please support your answer.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:05 AM   #93

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Absolutely not, it only brings down society.
It should be only for legal medical prescription.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #94

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Absolutely not, it only brings down society.
It should be only for legal medical prescription.
Each following person is going to have their own
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How will it bring down society?
People use it anyway whether it's legal or not.
Legalize it and you can regulate it, tax it and in a way control it.

Make it illegal and it goes underground, it causes more crime, people don't know what they get and there is absolutely no way to regulate who gets it.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:13 AM   #95

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Should marijuana be legalized for recreational use yes or no? Please support your answer.
Maijuana is no different than alcohol. Its effects are different from alcohol. And, as with alcohol, it affects each person slightly differently. Marijuana use is quite common, although illegal. However, tremendous amounts of money are being wasted on hunting down, bringing to trial and incarcerating individuals, who merely want to relax and escape from the pressures of life. The vast majority in the privacy of their home.
A tremendous amount of tax revenue is escaping into clandestine sources. And it is these sources who do not want it legalized. You can charge far higher amounts for illegal goods that natural market demands would provide. Potential taxes could be provided that would certainly help alleviate many states' financial difficulties. The use of Marijuana is a very powerful trend and the same trend that finally did in Prohibition and the crime of possessing, serving and drinking of alcohol. Which many states receive a large amount of revenue from the taxing of this alcohol usage as well.
There will be problems with the legal use of marijuana, but these already exist and cannot be dealt with directly. This is because of the illegal aura around such usage. Quality and standards could be set and prices stabilized based on quality and demand. Taxing the sale and usage of marijuana could bring in billions of dollars in tax revenue. Plus create thousands of new legal jobs, which can also be taxed as well. Not to mention marijuana entertainment venues (clubs) like alcohol related clubs.
Marijuana investment would finally become a commodity on Wall Street. I would love to get my hands on some of that initial stock. Marijuana usage is not going away. It is time we accepted its' reality and adapt to it.

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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:18 AM   #96

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Maijuana is no different than alcohol. Its effects are different from alcohol. And, as with alcohol, it affects each person slightly differently. Marijuana use is quite common, although illegal. However, tremendous amounts of money iare being wasted on hunting down, bringing to trial and incarcerating individuals, who merely want to relax and escape from the pressures of life. The vast majority in the privacy of their home.
A tremendous amount of tax revenue is escaping into clandestine sources. And it is these sources who do not want it legalized. Potential taxes that would certainly help alleviate many states' financial difficulties. It is a very powerful trend and the same trend that finally did in Prohibition the crime of possessing, serving and drinking of alcohol.
There will be problems with the legal use of marijuana, but these already exist and cannot be dealt with directly. This is because of the illegal aura around such usage. Quality and standards could be set and prices stabilized based on quality and demand. Taxing the sale and usage of marijuana could bring in billions of dollars in tax revenue. Plus create thousands of new legal jobs, which can also be taxed as well.
Money can't be a reason to change your morals, if weed would be legalized it should be done because people realize just how harmless it is.
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:18 AM   #97

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Absolutely not, it only brings down society.
It should be only for legal medical prescription.
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I agree

Long term exposure can also bring about paranoia and extreme lethargy.
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Long term exposure can also bring about paranoia and extreme lethargy.
Do you believe it is so hard to obtain now that when you legalize it more people will use it more often?

What are the long term effects of drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes or eating junk food?
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:38 AM   #99
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Legalize and tax it
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Old November 10th, 2012, 09:54 AM   #100

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Long term exposure can also bring about paranoia and extreme lethargy.
At least with "legalization" this long term exposure can be legally monitored and the real truth about its' affects determined. However, I do not believe paranoia and extreme lethargy is a common or universal outcome of long term usage. Moreover, the use of marijuana is so common now, that we will have to address its affects whether we want to legalize it or not. Moreover, there are many ingested chemicals and additives that are considered "legal." Ones that may also cause extreme lethargy and paranoia.
We really do not know the long term effects of cell phone usage, yet these are very legal and far too common. We may have far more to fear from low level microwave effects than anything marijuana will ever cause. The very same thing was said about alcoholics and we already know what the criminalization of alcohol caused. And why it was finally decriminalized.
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